Sale Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Killian: Not unless RedWolf has supplied their own parts to retailers. Obviously if the Army Armament L85 starts to sell well and people still want the part, they'll have a rerun made. It could be useful to send them an email asking if they will be getting more of the spacer kits. -Sale Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 It might be worth pestering Docsv400 about this. I know he's got access to a lathe and has made various bits for people before. Me, I just ordered my lathe and it should be here in a week or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freypal Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 The cocking handle falling off really isn't too much of an issue for me. If it comes off again i can weld so it will just get tacked on. Im just praying the piston doesn't go kapukt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killian Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 That would be great if someone could make that spacer on a lathe - and sell it without the piston gear (Redwolf was selling it with a TM gear, I would rather take something better). It seems to be very easy to make... There will be enough people who will need this part . Stealthbomber - could you please ask Docsv400 about this? I am new to this forum, and don't know anyone . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hepta Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Wow! Reading 36 pages in 2 and a half hours is like a novel. It starts out all good and happy, then everything starts going wrong, then it starts getting good again. Well, I for one, will never, ever, buy a gun, or anything else, off the first production run. There's just too many things that can go wrong. I am waiting until Holiday season to buy one. In the least. That way, there will be no rushed quality checks(that's why everyone's guns are breaking) and I can be guaranteed of a satisfactory product. That said, good luck to all of you guys who's guns are broken, and hopefully they'll be back in working order soon enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Well, I for one, will never, ever, buy a gun, or anything else, off the first production run. There's just too many things that can go wrong. I am waiting until Holiday season to buy one. In the least. That way, there will be no rushed quality checks(that's why everyone's guns are breaking) and I can be guaranteed of a satisfactory product. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Erm..... my gun still isn't broken i was looking at the construction & i have no reason to believe from an external & stripped down viewing that anything is going to go pop anytime soon.Internally is anyones guess but i'm begining to get survivors guilt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hepta Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 (edited) ^True, not every gun is going to suck, but look at this thread. Many people have complained about many problems. It's all because of the rushed construction and QC that was forced by the HK distributor. At least, that's what it says on that one website. I forget which one it is. Anyways, the chances are much lower of getting a lemon later in the production line. The same thing happened with Xbox 360. The second line, with improvements doesn't have as many problems as the first. Now, you are welcome to take the chance and be the lucky one who doesn't have any problems. But that's not my cup of tea. (Pardon the pun, I'm not from England) Edited July 30, 2007 by Hepta Quote Link to post Share on other sites
syron Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Now, you are welcome to take the chance and be the lucky one who doesn't have any problems. But that's not my cup of tea. (Pardon the pun, I'm not from England) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Couldn't have put it better meself 'luv! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killian Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I found an excellent guide how to remove the blowback and how to fit a 16 tooth piston: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...e=post&id=25713 The only thing I need is the spacer and a suitable screw... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killian Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Here are pictures of the newer style cocking handle and plate. This one is much better designed and can't be broken off easily. It seems that all R85 ordered from RSOV are now equipped with this new type. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subb0 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I ordered mine form there Thursday, will mine be like that? Should be here tomorrow.. but i don't want to fiddle and bust it.. only trouble is my skirmish is Sunday so i got a long wait to test it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killian Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Yes, if you have ordered it from RSOV, then you will most probably get the newer version. We were on a 3 day airsoft skirmish, one of the guns broke within the first minutes, big frustration... And who knows how long will it take to repair - I don't know where to get the spacer. This gun was bought in the pre-order (with the older style cocking handle). It was shot mainly on SEMI, I would say that SEMI will wreck the piston. The second gun is still working after 2000 shots and was fired only on full-auto. Overall, it's a very good gun for the money, very robust body, excellent for my purpose (mil-sim). The only thing is the piston, which can be fixed by using the spacer (hopefully someone will make that spacer). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subb0 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 thats great as I tend to use burtst fire because i can use it for full auto of a burst so its good to know auto wont break it easy.. Thanks for help look forward to taking mine out with me sunday giving it the full works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Here are pictures of the newer style cocking handle and plate. This one is much better designed and can't be broken off easily. It seems that all R85 ordered from RSOV are now equipped with this new type. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's the sort i've got on my gun,may be mines ok because it's one of the newer type? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guardsman Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 got my 2 today, both working fine out the box, still going strong after a whole day of playing with it. these are the newer type and seem very robust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pstj Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Getting mine this week. Good thing I had drank a few before ordering, because after reading all this I might have had second thoughts about it. Just hoping everything will be ok... Since it was ordered last week I suppose it's going to be of the newer type. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Since it was ordered last week I suppose it's going to be of the newer type. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wouldn't worry,i was one of the first ones to get one of these guns & it seems like mine is one of the newer gun.Maybe the factory was getting rid of the ones that didn't meet standard along with the good ones so they could fill orders? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freypal Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I've got one of the "original" types and mine broke off. But other than that... what is different ? All this talk of QC being lax just doesn't sit with me. I can only see 1 thing that is different and that is nothing at all major. The only major problem with this gun is the inherent weakness in the G&G design that no amount of re-runs / batches or QC checks is going to prevent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killian Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 (edited) I agree with you Freypal, I think the only change is probably the cocking handle. There is not much to improve, it's a copy of G&G - they would have to change the entire mechabox to prevent the piston breaking. EDIT: I found someone who will make a spacer for it. But how long should the spacer be? Could someone measure the exact lenght of the Redwolf spacer? MANY THANKS! Edited July 30, 2007 by Killian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AS90 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I got 4 of them today and 3 of them seem fine, however 1 of them will not fire in semi, anyone know whats wrong? Other than this I am extremely happy with them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DazJW Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I'm pretty sure it said it was a 10mm spacer. Someone needs to get a lathe and run a load of them off, should be able to profit from it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killian Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Yes, I also thought that it's a 10mm spacer but I would like someone to confirm this. I am going to replace the piston head, piston, spring and maybe other parts with custom built parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 10mm spacer. It can be made by using the weight from a TM piston and a longer screw, although thats not ideal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freypal Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Hmm hopefuly mine will last at least long enough for when im back at uni and can use the lathes in the machine shop and knock one out. If someone can post exact dimensions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killian Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 (edited) You just need to know the length, the other dimensions are standard - you can measure them directly on the piston (like diameter). There is one picture with the TM "weight" fitted as a spacer in this guide: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...e=post&id=25713 There you can see how it has to fit between the piston head and piston. Anyone knows if the cylinder head on the R85 is a standard type (type 2 or 3?)? I guess the tappet plate isn't a standard type? Edited July 30, 2007 by Killian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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