Victory Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Give them [Russians] half of the US (preferable those with the most gunowning "patriots" in it) WOLVERINES!!!!11 -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
badsailor Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I don't think we have to worry about the russians. They couldn't stop a bunch of high school kids (Patrick Swayze, Charlie Sheen), the Chechens having been giving them problems for years and the Afghans beat them in the 80's too. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 No, the greatest danger to world peace is a Belgian who would rather live in a world where everything has been irradiated than one in which an Alaskan simpleton is VP of the US. OK, I can understand the appeal, given the choice. But I would suggest invading a country slightly less your ally than us. Like Palestine. And I'm trying to remember the last imperial venture undertaken by Europe that was successful without American aid and I must admit, I'm drawing a blank. Link to post Share on other sites
Desolation mkII Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Off the top of my head? The Falklands War? Intervention in Sierra Leone by Britain? Destruction of the airforce of the Ivory Coast by France? Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I think what was most shocking, even to republicans, was how STUPID McCain's idea for buying back bad mortgages are, even the hardcore neo-cons were like, "SAY WHAT?!" I think Obama has it in the bag, America is burnt out on the bush style politics, and McCain invoking Reagan like he was a GOOD president was WAY off-putting even to republicans. REAGANOMICS! I have my concerns about Obama as well, no one should blindly vote for a leader, they all have their downsides. But McCain is out of touch with the middle class, and it really showed. Sorry but a 5,000 dollar healthcare check buys you jack and *suitcase* in this day and age. Interesting read: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/233..._maverick/print Talks about how McCains service history was embarrassing and how he used his father's pull to get him into vietnam. The dude crashed an airplane during training, then basically begged his way into the air combat in vietnam by using his daddy. Ouch. That's so not "mavericky" Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I think what was most shocking, especially to republicans, was how STUPID McCain's idea for buying back bad mortgages are Fixed. Federalizing homes sure as hell ain't a Republican or conservative principle. Democrats maybe, although that's even a stretch for them. McCain am the fail. And for those who missed it: Damn McCain for losing this one for Tina Fey. Link to post Share on other sites
sturgis Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 No, the greatest danger to world peace is a Belgian who would rather live in a world where everything has been irradiated than one in which an Alaskan simpleton is VP of the US. OK, I can understand the appeal, given the choice. But I would suggest invading a country slightly less your ally than us. Like Palestine. And I'm trying to remember the last imperial venture undertaken by Europe that was successful without American aid and I must admit, I'm drawing a blank. lol That's it, i'm voting we give Montana to the Russians, let them deal with you Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 What a bonehead McCain is. He does basically everything he can to ###### of his base. Today at a rally, he told his supporters not to fear Obama being President. His own *fruitcage* ads describe Obama's policies, lack of experience, and judgment as dangerous. The man is an absolute joke of a campaigner. It won't matter if Obama gets tied to hookers and blow or radicals, especially when McCain is defending him at McCain's own rallies. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 lol That's it, i'm voting we give Montana to the Russians, let them deal with you You two would kill each other vying over the honor of not having to occupy Montana. Even if you get past our guns, you still have to deal with our armored cows of doom.... Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 What a bonehead McCain is. He does basically everything he can to ###### of his base. Today at a rally, he told his supporters not to fear Obama being President. His own *fruitcage* ads describe Obama's policies, lack of experience, and judgment as dangerous. The man is an absolute joke of a campaigner. It won't matter if Obama gets tied to hookers and blow or radicals, especially when McCain is defending him at McCain's own rallies. Surprise surprise, Palin aka Hockey Mom who can see RUSSIANS!, was found to be abusing her power in the trooper gate scandal. Yep, she's just looking AWESOME as a potential VP. I really have nothing against Republicans, if republicans had a good candidate that I felt understood the problems of this country, I'd vote for him. But man, is the Republican party just so out of touch with reality that McCain seems good to them?! But I mean even talking with you Dave, your views have shifted pretty radically in the last 2 weeks, as it seems McCain has done almost everything possible to alienate even those that once were going to vote for him. Link to post Share on other sites
WeirdoTransvestite Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I almost wonder if the poll should be reset. Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 What a bonehead McCain is. He does basically everything he can to ###### of his base. Today at a rally, he told his supporters not to fear Obama being President. His own *fruitcage* ads describe Obama's policies, lack of experience, and judgment as dangerous. The man is an absolute joke of a campaigner. It won't matter if Obama gets tied to hookers and blow or radicals, especially when McCain is defending him at McCain's own rallies. Not to mention calling him a "terrorist" and shouts of "kill him!" Only thing missing from these rallies are swastika banners and brownshirts. I used to have a lot of respect for McCain but he let Rove lead him astray. He couldn't even acknowledge Obama in the debates by looking at him or referring to him as Senator, instead calling him "that one." This country, and indeed the world, is in for hard times, and all McCain/Palin cna do is spew hateful rhetoric. Disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites
WeirdoTransvestite Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I heard a guy call a radio station calling Obama the Anti-Christ, and that him being president would bring the end of days. He was somewhat crazy. It was actually rather funny to listen to. Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Surprise surprise, Palin aka Hockey Mom who can see RUSSIANS!, was found to be abusing her power in the trooper gate scandal. Yep, she's just looking AWESOME as a potential VP. I really have nothing against Republicans, if republicans had a good candidate that I felt understood the problems of this country, I'd vote for him. But man, is the Republican party just so out of touch with reality that McCain seems good to them?! But I mean even talking with you Dave, your views have shifted pretty radically in the last 2 weeks, as it seems McCain has done almost everything possible to alienate even those that once were going to vote for him. The whole troopergate scandal is a pretty stupid commentary on society. She fired the safety commissioner, her reason being a state trooper tazered a 10 year old, was drunk on duty, and threatened to kill another person, and the commissioner failed to fire that trooper. It just so happens that the 10 year old, the threatened person, and the trooper were related to her. The report shows that the firing of the commissioner was proper and lawful within her powers but that trying to get the trooper fired would benefit her and would therefore be a violation of the public trust. Whatever. As for my views shifting, I wouldn't necessarily say that but I could I see how it could be perceived that way. I, like many Republicans, wasn't thrilled at McCain getting the party nomination (sort of like if Lieberman got the Dem nod, although I don't think that would be nearly the same) and this election was truly going to be about choosing the lesser of two evils, yada yada. While most of my original ramblings in this thread were mainly concentrated on my dislike for Obama and defending McCain on what I perceived to be partisan attacks, his campaign style makes it almost impossible to support him. Stop repeating rhetoric and advocating socialistic economic policies. Go after Obama's loony policies, call his bs, and tell the American people just how *suitcasey* they are. I haven't heard much "straight talk" on the campaign. Not to mention calling him a "terrorist" and shouts of "kill him!" Only thing missing from these rallies are swastika banners and brownshirts. I used to have a lot of respect for McCain but he let Rove lead him astray. He couldn't even acknowledge Obama in the debates by looking at him or referring to him as Senator, instead calling him "that one." This country, and indeed the world, is in for hard times, and all McCain/Palin cna do is spew hateful rhetoric. Disgusting. It's not McCain/Palin spewing the hateful rhetoric, it's the stupid people in the crowd. There's stupid people in all parties. Link to post Share on other sites
Desolation mkII Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I don't think we should pay too much attention to the actual presidential candidates. McCain will probably die of old age and someone will probably bust a cap in Obama's *albatross* before their first terms are up, so it is realy a vote for vice president. Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 It's not McCain/Palin spewing the hateful rhetoric, it's the stupid people in the crowd. There's stupid people in all parties. 1. The 10 yr old asked to be tasered, with the training setup. 2. Standing there and hearing the crowd yell disgusting things and not repudiating is just as bad as saying it yourself. These just arn't stupid people, these are dangerous people. Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 1. The 10 yr old asked to be tasered, with the training setup. 2. Standing there and hearing the crowd yell disgusting things and not repudiating is just as bad as saying it yourself. These just arn't stupid people, these are dangerous people. 1. So it's okay if a LE officer tasers your 10 year old so long as he asked for it? Please. 2. I agree. And we all know that Obama repudiated Wright every chance he got when he would talk his anti-white or anti-American rants (which of course isn't hateful or dangerous) in his 20 some years in that church. Oh wait... Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 The thing that worries me most about Obama is that he was a member of Wright's flock for twenty years. And then up and left it because of a scandal. Uh, excuse me? Is loyalty out-dated, these days? When Obama left Wright's flock, I lost all respect for the man. He's every bit as two-faced and Machiavellian as any other candidate, including McCain. For once, I would like to see a politician have the testicular fortitude to stand up for one of their friends when they say things that are unpopular or ludicrous. To say, "Yeah, that's my friend. He's a bit crazy, isn't he? But I love him, none-the-less." Rather than the all too common, "He's not my friend! I don't even know this guy! Why are you pointing that camera over here!? There's nothing to see!" Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 lol. I'd love to see that... "Willy Ayers is a respected member of the educational community whom I've had the pleasure of working with numerous times. He also helped me kick start my Senate career when he introduced me to some prominent Democrats at his beautifully furnished hippy home. Oh yeah, I don't want want to forget to mention that he was a lost soul in the 60's who bombed buildings, wished he did more, told kids to kill their parents, and stated he was "Guilty as hell, free as a bird. I love America". But we all have to get a little dirty before we get clean, am I right? Anyways, meet your new Secretary of Education." None of this "he's a guy in the neighborhood" stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 1. So it's okay if a LE officer tasers your 10 year old so long as he asked for it? Please. 2. I agree. And we all know that Obama repudiated Wright every chance he got when he would talk his anti-white or anti-American rants (which of course isn't hateful or dangerous) in his 20 some years in that church. Oh wait... 1. He tasered his own kid. If my kid wanted me to taser him, I'd do it. He'd think twice about screwing with the police. 2. All the Rev. Wright stuff has been taken out of context. I bet you haven't seen the entire sermons, much less sat next to Obama in the same church for 20 years, so please, don't judge by what FOX news spews out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ educate yourselves. Link to post Share on other sites
TheKurodaVagrant Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 We need an agnostic in office. At least it would shut the Middle East up when it came to them calling us crusaders. Link to post Share on other sites
Gigueand Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Sunnis and Shiites refer to westerners as "crusaders" because of a long historical memory that links past imperialism (ex, propping up Iran's Shah) and economic domination (ex, the "capitulations" in Turkey) with the invasion of the Lavant by Franks, Lombards, Normans and others between (roughly) 1095 and 1272 AD/CE. The establishment of European feudal kingdoms in the area, supported by relatively frequent large scale military and religious pilgrimages have become known as "the crusades" (hopefully, we already know this). The cry of "crusader" has little to do with the current religious affiliation of the person in the White House, but rather with the perception of any western movement into the Middle East as representing an "invasion" of outsiders much like the crusades of the medieval period. In particular, this denunciation of "crusaders" from within the Islamic community came after President Bush argued that the U.S. and its European allies needed to pursue a "crusade" against terrorism in the aftermath of 9/11. Agnostic in the office or not, Sunnis and Shiites will still regard western "intervention" into their nations by the United States and other European or none Muslim nations as a "crusade." Completely off topic... but, "the more you know!" Lol, good call. | | | | \/ Link to post Share on other sites
TheKurodaVagrant Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Well if that's case, let's throw a Satanist into the oval office and see if their heads spin worse. Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 1. He tasered his own kid. If my kid wanted me to taser him, I'd do it. He'd think twice about screwing with the police. 2. All the Rev. Wright stuff has been taken out of context. I bet you haven't seen the entire sermons, much less sat next to Obama in the same church for 20 years, so please, don't judge by what FOX news spews out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ educate yourselves. 1. Not his own kid, his stepson. He tasered his stepson while his mother was yelling at them not to do it. How dare the mother have a concern for her kid's safety, right? The kid wanted to do it to prove he's not a mama's boy, not to be taught a lesson in respecting five-o. 2. Fox News was not the only network to report the Wright story, or is that what MSNBC tells you? And of course the clips were taken out of context, all news media is guilty of doing it. Dinosaur comments Palin never stated get tied to her and people question Obama's judgment for staying in that church for so long with Wright as his spiritual advisor (who, IMO, did have hateful sermons cloaked by "love thy neighbor" jiberish). Still, if your world view is that soldiers are out to kill babies (ONLY American soldiers as Wright would lead you to believe) and that loving your enemy is the way to defeat him, then certainly that's your perogative and that church might be for you. But there are others that don't share in that world view. Link to post Share on other sites
Zao1134 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 palin is a religous fanatic and if mccain dies were all screwed, she'll be in a peace talk conference with her half-dead inbred down-syndrome baby clinging at her breast in front of all the saudi sheiks.. but i digress. Link to post Share on other sites
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