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Mike_West

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Sure it's nice, but why won't anyone make an MP43? If they did that, I'd buy a dozen.

 

Erm I hate to point it out but MP43, MP44 and Sturmgewehr (StG) 44 are all designations that were applied to the same weapon. Do you mean the Gewehr 43 semi automatic full size 7.92mm rifle perhaps?

 

Gewehr 43 Wiki page

 

 

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i knew about this since may. i was really hoping shoei didnt do the triggerhappy/shoei electric mp44. but hey the old man is dead and son's an idiot and did it anyway. now he lost the monopoly on stg44. shoei did make an electric mp44 but it bombed. as did the trigger happy combo version. he personally flew the frame to trigger happy cause he didnt want it to fall into the wrong hands and clone it... well you did a bang up job there son..

 

it gonna use stick batteries. internally its an AK. hicaps, who knows. only 5 exist in the shoei gas model and they were all hand made. if they copied the mag capacity its 70 rounds. only positive for us gas version owners is if they take the same mag. that would be the best part about it.

 

having owned the gas version, seeing this does tick me off. but i will get to grin and smirk as i see the same flaws in this model as the th/shoei and some unsuspecting nublet have theirs break, I.E. charging handle weakness. even the shoei's was weak, had to be replaced with a real deal charging nub. the shoei did have the best charge back of any gun to ever exist. i imagine the electric will be a joke. the shoei had a wood grip.

 

the th/shoei combo was just 2 metal halves screwed together. this gun was suppose to come out before the end of last year. but it ws delayed. they had a manufacturer problem plus the olympics delayed it.

 

seeing the colored photo's make me wanna puke. looks like they ruined the stock part. looks fake now like tm ak wood fake, doesnt appear to be real wood. and the finish on the body reminds me of the acm mp40.

 

 

shoei made the model guns of the mp44,mp43, fg42,g43.

 

here are some great photo's of the shoei gas mp44 by iron monkey.

 

http://www.classicairsoft.org/forum/viewto...it=shoei#p68648

 

and finally, the little shop that started it all.

 

http://www.shoeiseisakusho.co.jp/

 

the father is dead now, so its all up to the son to take care of the business. this does not bode well. shoei made non airsoft also, but their craftsmanship is unmatched. one upgrade for the gas shoei i had done to mine was, installing of a trimmed AR spring. so it throws the weight inside harder into your shoulder. there is a reason owners say it "kicks like a mule"

 

 

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One thing about this is it might well end up the lightest of the three and thats no bad thing when it comes to folks lugging it around all day

 

Shoei gas one being heaviest (I find it tiring to shoot for any extended period of time), TH/Shoei being next and Id hazard a guess at this one being made of lighter materials and a lighter wood for the stock than the TH/Shoei electric so weighing in the least.

 

Sports system dittrich mentioned possibility of a model gun version of their semiauto remakes ..one of those with the escort 44 internals would be yummy (and probably only thing that would prise the shoei gas one out of my hands lol)

 

 

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^ yes there was talk before of who had the balls to buy a shoei fg-42 and then buy a shoei mp44 and have the escort internals installed into the fg-42.. THEN have more mags mag. your boarding on at 6 grand at this point when it was first purposed. now, maybe 4 grand or so might get the project done. but shoei hasnt made a fg model gun in a while. they make things in batches. they just did the mp44 gas version then prior to that was the mg-42's earlier this year. on their site they list whats next.

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i think it is a great step forward. While many deride this gun as a simple rip off of the Shoei, maybe is shoei got off its high horse and didn't charge ~$1000 or more for its guns, as well as making them hard to get, more people would buy them. I understand that their craftmanship is worth that, but the thing is, not everyone can afford $1000 guns, and even fewer people can afford to skirmish $1000 guns (i use the term "$1000 gun" in the sense that it will cost about that much to have an up and running, really useable (as in, enough mags, gas etc.) gun)

This gun, while not perfect, is a great leap forward in WWII airsoft, and for that i am very happy. For its defeciencies, i will try my best to fix them (and really, with patience, how hard is a wood stock to make? I've already made one for my Thompson, and this looks even easier.)

 

edit: the above seems a little inflammatory, i didn't mean it that way, my point is while shoei may have the best workmanship, not everyone will buy one, both because of the price, and/or minimum required standard of quality. I don't need something that can pass as the real thing when i am taking it out to skirmish, just as i don't need a Ferrari as a commuter car. Instead i will get a less exotic, expensive car to use all the time, just as i will get an AGM stg to skirmish with when i don't use my Thompson.

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It always funny how we flame people who clone, put at the end of the day every airsoft manufacturer is ripping off someone else's original look of a gun. Yes shock horror they didn't design it themselves, and I mean the like of VFC, Systema et al, none of them did.

 

If we all kept to the high moral groud then we would not have any, as the original designers I bet would be hacked off that some company is using thier design to sell toys and make a profit.

 

Back on topic, this is a point in the right direction for people who want to re-enact WWII battles or themes. I might invest in a sten if it comes out but not a gas blow back one, only an AEG.

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It always funny how we flame people who clone, put at the end of the day every airsoft manufacturer is ripping off someone else's original look of a gun. Yes shock horror they didn't design it themselves,

Yeah, this a nice "who ripped off what from who " game. :)

 

Asahi M249 --> TOP M249 --> TOP M249 w/ PGC gearbox --> CA M249 --> A&K M249.

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