WETTI Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I would like to nominate Power Edge Hawaii (www.poweredgehawaii.com) as a WE parts/service center. They are a large retail storefront with an online retail arm (www.poweredgeusa.com). Plus they are close to where I live PM sent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I also remember seeing a link somewhere in this thread (can't find it) that redirected you to a website which lists RS parts that will or will not fit the WE M4, such as rail systems, stocks, etc. I'd like to start taking a look at what kind of front ends I can throw on it. To my understanding, any RS front end should fit, right? Not sure what you're looking for exactly, but here's one, here's another. I'm wondering though, can I use silicone for everything when I do maintenance? From what I gather from the 100 over pages of posts, seems like I will need grease on some parts. I've only ever done maintenance on AEGs and GBB pistols, so I'm not sure about GBB rifles. And I use silicone for everything on them. Any advise is greatly appreciated. I'm planning to do a full servicing before heading out for the first game... Silicone grease should be fine, but oil is a bit too thin and runny to be really effective on the larger moving parts (like the bolt carrier). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
devilstar2k2 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) Has anyone heard of an ATF ban on the importation of the WE M4 to the US? Is this true? Theres a post on ASF where someone mentions it... So what does that mean for those of us in the US with outstanding orders? Any ideas? http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/M4-Wa-M4...5#entry17971745 EDIT- I got linked to the info: http://gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=528 I guess nothing is solid yet... Edited February 27, 2009 by devilstar2k2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
massoh2 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 When I asked my local store about it (Steelhawk Airsoft), they said the same thing... but it appears the WE M4 is still making it's way to the US... just not through the large retail outlets. I was wondering why Evike stopped selling them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Because the majority of guns they recieved appeared to fall to bits. Most of the disgruntled posters in the WE megathread appear to have got them through Evike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accuracy Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Has anyone heard of an ATF ban on the importation of the WE M4 to the US? Is this true? Theres a post on ASF where someone mentions it... So what does that mean for those of us in the US with outstanding orders? Any ideas? http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/M4-Wa-M4...5#entry17971745 EDIT- I got linked to the info: http://gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=528 I guess nothing is solid yet... well at least something constructive came out of that thread. (3) None of the issues mentioned above will delay our SCAR project or the very exciting one after that :shh: (hint: SD-6) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hazmatt Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 From what's been reported so far, fitting handguards have not been a problem: the barrel nut thread is the same as the real deal. I know nothing of PowerEdge, but it seems like putting a major distributor somewhere as isolated as Hawaii may not be the wisest choice. Think of the US markup + shipping to continental 48. Were not as isolated as you would think. We are closer to WE than the mainland as well as the closest port of entry for shipments from Asia which would (and has for me) cut down transit times into the US. There is always USPS flat rate shipping and UPS even offers "ground" to and from HI at a minimal cost. Besides, it was just a thought are an established online retailer with good customer support. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wraithxt1 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I beg to differ, I have talked to Dave and Peter and even let them shoot my gun. Both seem interested and would support anything they bring in. I have been shopping at Power Edge for many many years and have never been let down by them not having or being willing and able to get what I need. It was just a thought and would make my life a little easier. In fact, if Peter were to carry the M4 I may be able to finally get back a replacement mag we blew up when we tried to put CO2 in it I'll have a chat with dave next time I go in. Also, you're an idiot for putting CO2 in a magazine designed for propane. Propane is pressurized at about 200 PSI, if you put unregulated propane in it, you're looking at well over 1k PSI. You're lucky you didnt lose a hand or get someone hurt. Remind me not to go to Power Edge when you're doing stupid things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hazmatt Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) I'll have a chat with dave next time I go in. Also, you're an idiot for putting CO2 in a magazine designed for propane. Propane is pressurized at about 200 PSI, if you put unregulated propane in it, you're looking at well over 1k PSI. You're lucky you didnt lose a hand or get someone hurt. Remind me not to go to Power Edge when you're doing stupid things. Excuse me? I'm not trying to be rude here, but were you in the room when we did this? Did you know we used a regulator and pressure gauge and took other precautions. I suggest you get all your facts straight before calling someone an idiot. This was an experiment we did to see what the mag could handle, we knew unregulated CO2 was out of the question, but wanted to stress test the mag. Hope we don't run into one another at PE. PS Just a reminder; I guess you won't want to be near PE anymore since Peter was the one who suggested the experiment . Edited February 28, 2009 by hazmatt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wraithxt1 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Wow, that sounds like a brilliant idea. I've seen peter do dumb stuff with CO2 before, like charging a grenade to 900 PSI. I've seen what happens when people *fruitcage* around with CO2 in airsoft guns, so as a former classic airsoft enthusiast I'd like to say good luck getting your hand blown off next time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (1) CO2 is straightly NOT suitable for use with our regular M4 mags!! Our gas-charged mags are not designed to handle CO2, period. (2) Our version of CO2 mag will be available VERY soon!! It'll be using the 12g CO2 capsule & has a pressure regulator to regulate the output pressure. WETTI Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Our CO2 mag has a pressure regulator to regulate the output pressure. Out of curiosity, what sort of fps did you get without it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hazmatt Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 We were unable to test FPS and would rather not discuss our method and results in any further detail. That being said I feel the need to set the record straight once and for all. I have sent wraithxt1 a PM asking him to halt the personal attacks and resume the information and idea flow that this forum is for. I had reported earlier on in this thread about our failed experiment, at that time I intentionally left out all details of the experiment so as to not give any ideas to others who may copy what we did. As a long time airsoft enthusiast and former paintball player I know all too well the risks and dangers of pressurized gasses. Precautions were taken in the event of a failure and thus no one got hurt (other than the mag and my wallet). I HAVE NOT AND DO NOT ENDORSE CO2 USE IN ANY PRODUCT OR MACHINE WHICH DOES NOT INDICATE IT IS RATED FOR IT. Experimentation breeds innovation, If WE did not experiment we would not be lucky enough to have these great toys. I do apologize to those of you who are offended by this type of post (normally I am one of you) but felt the need to end this sidetrack once and for all. And now back to our regular programming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accuracy Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 On airsoft pacific forums, the seller AirsofAmmoSupply Mentioned that their new stock of WE m4's AFC ver, they got in on feb 27 will have "This batch of guns are much improved over previous lots & many parts & seals are strengthened even more than the original ver.2" according to a WE rep. Is this true? or some bs to make people buy from him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rottenotto Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 or some bs to make people buy from him. Yep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSOJGNILRAD Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I just broke my second part # 42 (valve head) today. I have no idea why this is happening. I was wondering if anyone has ever gotten something custom milled by a CNC machine shop. I want to see if a local shop could make me one of these parts in some stronger material............I'm thinking stainless steal. What do you think something like this might cost? I know it wont be cheap. Any help would be much appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bnoji Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I just broke my second part # 42 (valve head) today. I have no idea why this is happening. I was wondering if anyone has ever gotten something custom milled by a CNC machine shop. I want to see if a local shop could make me one of these parts in some stronger material............I'm thinking stainless steal. What do you think something like this might cost? I know it wont be cheap. Any help would be much appreciated. Got a picture? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 We were unable to test FPS and would rather not discuss our method and results in any further detail. That being said I feel the need to set the record straight once and for all. I have sent wraithxt1 a PM asking him to halt the personal attacks and resume the information and idea flow that this forum is for. I had reported earlier on in this thread about our failed experiment, at that time I intentionally left out all details of the experiment so as to not give any ideas to others who may copy what we did. As a long time airsoft enthusiast and former paintball player I know all too well the risks and dangers of pressurized gasses. Precautions were taken in the event of a failure and thus no one got hurt (other than the mag and my wallet). I HAVE NOT AND DO NOT ENDORSE CO2 USE IN ANY PRODUCT OR MACHINE WHICH DOES NOT INDICATE IT IS RATED FOR IT. Experimentation breeds innovation, If WE did not experiment we would not be lucky enough to have these great toys. I do apologize to those of you who are offended by this type of post (normally I am one of you) but felt the need to end this sidetrack once and for all. And now back to our regular programming. All understood. Thank you for clearing the air, my friend! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Out of curiosity, what sort of fps did you get without it? Exact spec. will be available upon release. Max we've achieved in the factory is around 800fps (without damaging things ); however, please understand that the whole CO2 idea is not about extreme fps (even though that's an added bonus), but it is a more stable operating platform for all seasons. Another reason for it is the 12g CO2 capsules are a lot more readily-available (and in most cases, more economical) in certain market sectors than the green gas (e.g. in the U.S.). Purely from a mil/LE training point-of-view, the CO2 capsule is by far a more convenient option for the troops to carry on the field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) Another reason for it is the 12g CO2 capsules are a lot more readily-available (and in most cases, more economical) in certain market sectors than the green gas (e.g. in the U.S.). that's not exactly true. we just use propane. its only a little more expensive than co2. but, capsules of co2 are much easier and safer to carry than a bottle of green gas or propane. you think that when the MP5s start rolling out we will see a co2 mag for them too? im such a ###### for mp5s. Edited March 1, 2009 by Horsem4n Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yehaw Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) i just hope their MP5 will have a receiver with the right measurements (real steel) ... because so far all MP5s (Marui,CA,Systema) are out of spec! No way to fit real steel stocks .. Edited March 1, 2009 by yehaw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) it will be. the M4 is, the SCAR is, why wont the MP5 be? wait, why the heck do i want a gas in mag MP5 that ill have to fix up when i could just buy an upgraded escort? man, i needs the sleep... Edited March 1, 2009 by Horsem4n Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yehaw Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 why wont the MP5 be? don't know .. perhaps it's not that easy to get ahold of a real steel MP5 for taking the right measurements. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 don't know .. perhaps it's not that easy to get ahold of a real steel MP5 for taking the right measurements. And it's easy to get a SCAR? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yehaw Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) who says the SCAR has the right specs? that's what i mean .. often some manufacturers just take the guns from some other manufacturers and take their specs, not the real ones. perhaps WETTI can tell us where they got all their specifications from? (especially MP5 and SCAR) Do they have a real MP5 / SCAR and take all the measurements? Did Heckler & Koch / FN give theme their blueprints? Or are they orientating at some other replicas, some (reas steel) accessoires, and some pictures?? Edited March 1, 2009 by yehaw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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