somegirls Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) WTF?? I just checked my paypal account and AB canceled my payment for some frickin reason I don't know. And the worst thing is, I paid $83 and they refund me $68, so airsoftbuddy stole $15 from me!!! The the f is going on with these people? I kinda getting piZZed of one retailer selling stuff that doesn't do sh*t and another one stealing my frickin money. Edited April 2, 2009 by somegirls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lupus78 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 About AB: I just got the parts I ordered from AB a while ago (spare o-rings, ~300fps tune down nozzle part etc). Last time I mailed him (two weeks ago perhaps) he answered pretty fast. Nothing to complain there. Excellent service so far, except for that "black-out" period in February(?) when his email service was supposedly down. I've also been waiting for the CO2 mags before I order anything else. Currently my gun runs pretty smooth with green gas. Good thing I've been patient so I haven't bought anything useless like the aluminum bolt or magazine bolt catch parts... Currently I'm waiting eagerly for the CO2 mags, new barrel & hopup rubber plus the reinforced nozzle etc. for CO2 use. I'm hoping that there will be options to tune the gun around ~400fps with CO2 magazines. After that my gun is pretty much perfect. (Yeah, just kidding myself.) In the coming few weekends the weather here should finally warm back up to manageable temperatures for WE M4 use outdoors... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newcomer Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Co2 cool down is just as bad if not worse if proper design is not taken into consideration. One of the constraints WE will face is ample room for co2 to expand(to negate cooldown). I personally think cartridges is a failing approach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Chef Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 NewComer I have to disagree. I've got CO2 mags for my TM Hi-Capa (incidentally they are WE magazines) and they are pretty much perfect. Bearing in mind its about 6 degrees celcius here, when using a magazine with propane, if I rapid fire the pistol, I'll get major cool-down and possibly even a gas out by the end of the magazine. I can do this without fear or incident when using a 12g CO2 Bulb magazine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kimkafwan Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 At this rate i'll buy a complete co2 m4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 We now ordered our stuff @ AB .. he answered very fast after our enquriy mail and I hope we'll get it very soon^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newcomer Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Then y produce a semi auto video of co2 but not full auto? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 why should co2 fail? co2 as a propellant for Airguns is not a new invention.. what about Paintball-markers,.. old co2 is.. old. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kimkafwan Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 why should co2 fail? co2 as a propellant for Airguns is not a new invention.. what about Paintball-markers,.. old co2 is.. old. If we refer to paintbal markers, is the internal in brass/metal or plastic? i thought co2 could act like glue with metal? CO2 -> new design -> actual spares not compatible? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 i thought co2 could act like glue with metal? ... then all already existing co2 airsoft guns .. are what? glue-guns?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marky [UE] Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I followedthe magazine PDF guide that someone put on here, and it did solve my mag issues.i went from full auto to full auto bought 5 times empty the whole 30 rounds and it did stop the bolt. Excellent news glad to see that my guide worked for someone else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marky [UE] Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) So a few thoughts. I just ordered a new batch of parts from AB to get my M4 running & improved including a new 7075 charging handle (the terrible early POT charging handle finally failed and my gun in out of action ) and the LAT Aluminium Piston Head. I am waiting patiently for the CO2 mags as this should be the ideal solution for the UK weather. But to spread the cost I thought about upgrading to the steel valve assembly in advance. Since I just recently lost my job I decided to hold out. Thankfully as it turns out. I appreciate that the CO2 solution needs to be very safe/reliable and requires adequate testing. I appreciate the degree of community interaction and information WETTI and AB have provided even more, thank you. I also understand that some developments should/have to be closed doors for many reasons. But it is unacceptable to have suppliers either 1) make assumptions as to part uses and specifications or 2) not keep them informed of changes in the development roadmap so they can provide the correct information to customers. Was the steel nozzle ever intended for CO2 use? Have suppliers taken it upon themselves to assume it was? Did WE always intend the steel nozzle to be an upgrade part for green gas use only? What other parts will be incompatible with the CO2 system? I don't particularly want to waste money on parts I can't use or don't need right now, but I nearly did. I feel upset that some obviously have. I need to know what to buy/not to buy now as I am holding out for CO2 and really can't afford to just throw money away (well not as much as normal). Edited April 2, 2009 by Marky [UE] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redline Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 lol. I wonder if we can return the steel nozzle for a discount on the co2 internals... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nazio Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Is it possible that internal parts would be missing in rifle ? I just disassembled mine for the very first time. I wanted to check what causes the problem with missfiring and overhope. Job was carried out on my desk with strong light and great attention. There was no way i could miss anything especialy #109 which is green. I have removed inner barrel with chamber and hopup, removed pin which holds part #114, then removed itself #114, with spring #116 and #115. Slowly unscrewed #113, i've noticed there is only #110 or #108 . Edited April 2, 2009 by Nazio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Update: Please forget what I said about AB. Somehow paypal screwed something up. My goods have been shipped, AB got my money, and for some reason paypal books $68 back into my bankaccount. So, it wasn't ABs fault at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redline Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Is it possible that internal parts would be missing in rifle ? I just disassembled mine for the very first time. I wanted to check what causes the problem with missfiring and overhope. Job was carried out on my desk with strong light and great attention. There was no way i could miss anything especialy #109 which is green. I have removed inner barrel with chamber and hopup, removed pin which holds part #114, then removed itself #114, with spring #116 and #115. Slowly unscrewed #113, i've noticed there is only #110 or #108 . Naizo, check here: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...411&st=1360 As far as I can tell, there is only one ball bearing (#108 or #110) and part #109 I believe is the same as #118 (green rubber). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Airsoft Buddy Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) I will ask WE to see any news update about everything on WE GBB M4 at this Saturday night. Once I got any news, I will post it here to share with you guys. Such as the CO2 mags. Edited April 2, 2009 by Airsoft Buddy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VonPTV Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Thanks William. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rottenotto Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 William. The ball is in YOUR court buddy. With TSone now a complete abortion, YOU are the overseas retailer that has the chance to prove himself - and have ALL of our business. Mayor says, "Do the right thing". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 He's not got all of my business! Horizon Tactical is my first choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Got my refund from TS One. Kinda' strange how it was directly deposited into my bank account, but whatever. It's there. -Vic Edit: And yes, I'll be keeping my eyes on Horizon Tactical. However, they're in California, and sales tax was bumped up yesterday to 9.25%, which can be a turn-off to those of us located in Cali. (Yet another reason for me to GTFO of here, heh.) Edited April 2, 2009 by Victory Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Horizon techtical is also requesting a sellers forum here at arnies. I was contact with them about some stuff but decided not to order, because AB added new charging handles and I had an order pending with AB. But the contact with HT (sounds cooler) was pretty good. Plus they seem to be the only seller with a working shipping system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Yep, HT was given their forum a day or two ago. Link: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...p?showforum=281 -Vic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accuracy Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) well i wouldn't say ts one is a complete loss. they have good prices due to free shipping. i mean 35 shipped for magazines are a good price, considering AB's $35 + 19shipping. one question, is there an easy way to determine whether you have a 300fps or 500fps valve? after comparing the images from AB's website (steel nozzles) It seems as if valve #42 is further upward in the nozzel . If you had the lower power valve but you want it to shoot near 400, could you just diassemble it and then place the valve further in the rear? Edited April 3, 2009 by accuracy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rottenotto Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) ^ Yeah,...simple. Just look inside the window at the valve positon. "WFO" (wide f_cking open) is the 500fps valve....it allows more gas into the chamber. The 300 spaces the septum valve right in the middle (less gas enters the chamber) PS As for Tsone, hows '35 shipped a good deal' - when they cant even SHIP them. I have written them off 1000%. William gives me great package deal prices on shipping. Always. Tsone's paypal account was frozen. I was told due to the word usage placed with some of the orders (M4 magazines etc..."gun speak") Ebay and paypal hate guns as you know and they are frozen. They assumed it was "real gun parts" (Yeah, I know they are stupid).........They will likely continue to have problems with this. Theres no escape from paypal BS once you are blacklisted. "Airsoftshooting" on eBay has had this problem so many times. Ebay is so clueles. They ended a WW2 canvas Thompson pouch I had listed. They said it violated their rules, it was a "large capacity item" and it was part of an "Assault weapon".......LOL! IDIOTS! A canvas pouch!!! Edited April 3, 2009 by rottenotto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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