L4byr1nth Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 There is an L85 as well, isn't there? Ben. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukvdh Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I know, must sound boring, but: no AKs ??? :-) Oops, my mistake. I didn't notice 'AK' is there. Must be the silicon-oil that splashes on my spectacles everytime I fire my WE M4. Sorry! P.S. How do people who do not wear glasses (always wear at least protective glasses!) cope with the oil-in-the-eyes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4boost Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Oops, my mistake. I didn't notice 'AK' is there. Must be the silicon-oil that splashes on my spectacles everytime I fire my WE M4. Sorry! P.S. How do people who do not wear glasses (always wear at least protective glasses!) cope with the oil-in-the-eyes? They use propane instead of airsoft green gas. Green gas saturates the gun in silicone oil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Or use Gas Buster charging handles. *hints at WE* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan452 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) M4A1, CQB-R, M16A3, SCAR-L (tan or black) are available now. AK, MP5, SCAR-H will be coming soon. M249 SAW, UMP and Sig556 are possibilities down the road. scar's been released? where can I buy it then? Edited June 4, 2009 by Spartan452 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrooklynBorn Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 This question is kinda stupid, but AGM M4? or WE? I've heard WE took the flaws the WA and AGM have, and took away most of them. The AGM is going to end up costing me about $350 anyways, and I've been told on some part like 155 or something needs to be replaced on it. That's it. With AGM I might need bolt face, NPAS, bolt stop, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 WE did not do anything to WA or AGM because its based on its own system. Its a completely different animal. The G&P WOC took the WA and worked out most of its bugs within reasonable cost while the AGM is just a clone of the WA. Right now, if you bought a brand spanking new WE M4/M16/CQBR AWSS, theres virtually nothing you'd need to replace. All this replacing bits talk you've been hearing about are from people with older versions wanting to update theirs to better the performance (ex. reinforced charging handles, better hop up, stronger nozzles, stronger bolt stops). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aidan mc Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 two standard Co2 nozzels changed over part #39. higher powered part #39 (left) standard part #39 (right) part #39 in Co2 nozzels are same as the ones in the 300fps steel nozzels. high powered Co2 nozzel (left) standard Co2 nozzel (right) will see what they do this weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jin15 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 M4A1, CQB-R, M16A3, SCAR-L (tan or black) are available now. AK, MP5, SCAR-H will be coming soon. M249 SAW, UMP and Sig556 are possibilities down the road. Now that's what I'm talking about! I've been begging for a gas in the mag style GBB MP5 for years now Had a Maruzen MP5k that I put a PDW stock and suppressor on to make it a little bigger but the inability to run green gas reliably and the lack of a bolt stop killed it for me. Tried the Escort A-Spec MP5 but couldn't get over the external rig and wonky classic internals. If WE makes a GBB MP5 of any kind I'll buy it the day it's released! I'll be hoping for a navy trigger group with 3 round burst, but I suppose I that might be asking too much lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accuracy Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 oh lord. my charging handle snapped for the second time, even though i tried as hard as i could to baby this one. i feel terrible for asking tokyohobby again for another one, due to shipping costs and i already got one from them. I don't really have the cash to purchase another one either. Is there a parts dealer i could get it from in US? Seems that Horizon is down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 get a "proper" one for about $40 and you'll never have to bother again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vila Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) I bought a Rock River charging handle, modded it per WE M4 wiki, and it hasn't failed me yet. Edited June 4, 2009 by Vila Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmc10 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 i modded the stock we charging handle and its still intact. i just shaved a little bit of material so the bolt wont slam on the charging handle when firing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrooperX Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) M4A1, CQB-R, M16A3, SCAR-L (tan or black) are available now. AK, MP5, SCAR-H will be coming soon. M249 SAW, UMP and Sig556 are possibilities down the road. M249!!! That will be one hell of a gas tank in the box mag!!! Would be pretty awesome and no disadvantage if used against hi-cappers Edited June 4, 2009 by TrooperX Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 oh lord. my charging handle snapped for the second time, even though i tried as hard as i could to baby this one. Mine went with the hot weather- the tip snapped while shooting. I've ordered the 7075 Aluminium version from Airsoft Buddy for $47 plus shipping. I assume this is the real deal strength! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 SCAR-L (tan or black) are available now. Where? I can't see any trace of a WE GBB Scar-L for sale anywhere. I'v actually got cash set aside to buy one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan452 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 does the scar's bolt go all the way back? or is it about 3/4ths of the way like the VFC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rottenotto Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 This question is kinda stupid, but AGM M4? or WE? I've heard WE took the flaws the WA and AGM have, and took away most of them. The AGM is going to end up costing me about $350 anyways, and I've been told on some part like 155 or something needs to be replaced on it. That's it. With AGM I might need bolt face, NPAS, bolt stop, right? You heard wrong. WE has NOTHING to do with WA or its chinese made clone. As stated in a previous post theya re completely different animals. As for the AGM immediately requiring upgradeparts, yes that is true. It is junk plastic or weak pot metal in many critical areas. Plastic bolt face/nozzle wears out in no time - and it will be flattened IMMEDIATELY after one bb jam. Buffer is cheap plastic. (I mean really cheap). The hop chamber is plastic and works about as poorly as the gun it clones. The entire trigger mechanism is monkey metal. Just think of it as a stock WA with all the same problems (except a weak plastic body) that you bought for a good deal.......you'll need the savings to pay for all the needed upgrades. My grandfather always said, "You buy cheap, you buy twice". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 hey otto, did you get the nozzle yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSOJGNILRAD Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Accuracy, Evike does carry replacement handles for $15 but it is the same one that keeps snapping. If you are low on cash you could always go that rout. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eliminator56 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Does anyone know where to find a step by step guide to make the 480 fps nozzle have a 400ish fps? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
happy.al Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 This question is kinda stupid, but AGM M4? or WE? I've heard WE took the flaws the WA and AGM have, and took away most of them. The AGM is going to end up costing me about $350 anyways, and I've been told on some part like 155 or something needs to be replaced on it. That's it. With AGM I might need bolt face, NPAS, bolt stop, right? To be fair you are asking that question on a thread all about the WE, where most of the WE users hang out, you're not going to get a fair answer. Also it really depends on what you are planning on using the rifle for? Main weapon, backup, a bit of fun etc. and also the weather where you are, site limits etc. Depending of what you plan to use it for really depends on what gun is right for you. Check out both reviews and see what both sets of users are saying before you make up your mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nazio Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) This question is kinda stupid, but AGM M4? or WE? I've heard WE took the flaws the WA and AGM have, and took away most of them. The AGM is going to end up costing me about $350 anyways, and I've been told on some part like 155 or something needs to be replaced on it. That's it. With AGM I might need bolt face, NPAS, bolt stop, right? To be fair i wont recommend You none of the guns. I have WE and love this rifle, but You are the one who have to make decission. Like happy.al said read reviews and decide on Your own. There is another player entering GBB market KJ/Tania Koba M4A1 for good price from airsoftbuddy. You might consider this rifle as well Edited June 4, 2009 by Nazio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrooklynBorn Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) Now that's what I'm talking about! I've been begging for a gas in the mag style GBB MP5 for years now Had a Maruzen MP5k that I put a PDW stock and suppressor on to make it a little bigger but the inability to run green gas reliably and the lack of a bolt stop killed it for me. Tried the Escort A-Spec MP5 but couldn't get over the external rig and wonky classic internals. If WE makes a GBB MP5 of any kind I'll buy it the day it's released! I'll be hoping for a navy trigger group with 3 round burst, but I suppose I that might be asking too much lol WELL made their Mp5K. Some of my friends said it was decent. It's only $95 shipped from EbayBanned To Nazio: I did in fact see the KJ video and the preorder on AB. However, I'm in the market for something soon, and by this is only preorder. By the time people order, get theirs, test it out, it'll be too late for me. And I have heard multiple good things about the WE, much better than the WA. I read somewhere the KJ is another WA clone, and so I'm expecting similar if not the same problems. Overall, I think The WE is my best bet. Edited June 4, 2009 by BrooklynBorn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nazio Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) To Nazio: I did in fact see the KJ video and the preorder on AB. However, I'm in the market for something soon, and by this is only preorder. By the time people order, get theirs, test it out, it'll be too late for me. And I have heard multiple good things about the WE, much better than the WA. I read somewhere the KJ is another WA clone, and so I'm expecting similar if not the same problems. Overall, I think The WE is my best bet. So You've made the decission already. You are looking for cofirmation only. I love M4 by WE, even if it gives me heartbreak somtimes( last milsim Madbull BB'S .4 shattered in chamber. However i am last person to say WE is better than WA, beacuse i think such opinion is always based on subjective feelings of user. Friend of my asked me "why dont You buy AEG", and i've told him - I wont because i love WE GBB performance. In other hand i wont be seen as WE user with unfair opinion just because of fact that i have WE. Edited June 4, 2009 by Nazio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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