Armez Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Are we looking at more "recoil engine" models? I don't speak japanese I also want to know this. A good G36 sight would make me reconsider my next purchase... TM can make good optics, right? Link to post Share on other sites
buggyr333 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 That pistol looks like a Mk23 to me, I doubt TM would randomly make a P30 or a HK45 out of nowhere, since they aren't necessarily common seen pistols. As for gbb or ebb, no idea. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 again, missing thumb safety if its a MK23... Link to post Share on other sites
Dodger_013 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Wrong rear sight for a MK23 and big time missing the thumb safety, and grip texture is incorrect. Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Reasons it's not a Mk 23 -No Decocker -No Safety -Slide is a different shape -Slide stop too far back -The Mk23 has 8 ridges the picture has 7 -If we assume the hand in the picture is an average sized Japanese male's then they must be about 8 feet tall on average... Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 TM making an H&K P30 and FN SCAR-L/H was sarcasm, noting they haven't been too innovative lately. Just look at their "new" Sig, M9's, etc-same guns just refinished with chrome and they mixed and matched the slides, same thing for their "new" OD rifles, lol! Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 TM making an H&K P30 and FN SCAR-L/H was sarcasm, noting they haven't been too innovative lately. Just look at their "new" Sig, M9's, etc-same guns just refinished with chrome and they mixed and matched the slides, same thing for their "new" OD rifles, lol! yes, and what do 99% of all the other manufacturers do? Most of them now sell assembled parts as AEG's. And lets not forget, TM doesn't give an *albatross* about what we think. Link to post Share on other sites
EmptyChambers Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Lets be honest. If nothing else, the new M9s finally have adjustable hopup rather than a fixed unit, something they lacked since they were one of the first gbb Marui made... Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 TM making an H&K P30 and FN SCAR-L/H was sarcasm, noting they haven't been too innovative lately. Just look at their "new" Sig, M9's, etc-same guns just refinished with chrome and they mixed and matched the slides, same thing for their "new" OD rifles, lol! So what's the 325fps 5-7 then, scotch mist? Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 i wouldnt call it innovative as it doesnt feature anything new. Its just a new model. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hows that different from pretty much all the OEM is doing? Every once in a while OEM comes out with something new, but they use the same technology in the product that comes after for a long time.....last thing for WA that was new, GBBR AR, for TM, recoiling AEGs, KSC, System 7 pistols.... Link to post Share on other sites
Munitions Man Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 The thing I don't like about the new TM guns is they're so pricey. Nowadays they cost over $500 whereas before the usual TM gun would cost around $300. I know they quality is excellent and they have interesting features but it's out of my price range. Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hows that different from pretty much all the OEM is doing? Every once in a while OEM comes out with something new, but they use the same technology in the product that comes after for a long time.....last thing for WA that was new, GBBR AR, for TM, recoiling AEGs, KSC, System 7 pistols.... New technology=/= innovation. The recoil engine is innovative, be cause its a completely new concept and design. The S7 KSC pistols are just a makeover. Now obviously theirs a thin line between the two, but you should be able to see what im getting at. Wa, i dunno know about the GBB ARs, so no comment. Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 If you think about it, then the "just a makeover" thing you're pointing out about System 7 applies equally to the recoil-engine AEGs. Why? Well, TM have made guns powered by electricity that had "blowback" before. Other companies have had AEG's with "blowback" as well. Marui just updated the gearbox and gave it a makeover. The idea that the P30 could be a AAA battery powered EBB kinda bugs me, but at the same time that means it would be cheap and I would definitely buy one, rather than it being expensive and me really wanting one... Link to post Share on other sites
AliceHKfan Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Why in all that is holy, would they make a drum mag for an MP5. Heck you might as well give it a bipod and a 20X scope to finish it off. because one actually exists? Just like how there are drum mags for the G3/HK11 Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 If you have a S7 vs the old version of the KSC pistol, you'll know they are completely different..... Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 If you think about it, then the "just a makeover" thing you're pointing out about System 7 applies equally to the recoil-engine AEGs. Why? Well, TM have made guns powered by electricity that had "blowback" before. Other companies have had AEG's with "blowback" as well. Marui just updated the gearbox and gave it a makeover. The idea that the P30 could be a AAA battery powered EBB kinda bugs me, but at the same time that means it would be cheap and I would definitely buy one, rather than it being expensive and me really wanting one... I guess it just depends on how you look at it then. Honestly id rather see it be a GBB... I love p30/20s Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Looks like the HK has been confirmed as an EBB P30. Also, H&K G36K with electric blowback, MP5A5 HC and G3 SAS HC (HC stands for High Cycle, meaning insane high rate of fire), MP5 drums, EG3000 HC motor. From airsoft-news.eu Pics from TM booth at Hobby fair Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Shame its a G3 SAS Interesting to see they are using short stroked pistons with the second tooth taken off though, and metal bushings now too. MP5 drum mag and high rof MP5 makes sense though, thankfully they'll probably be uncommon so there is unlikely to be a load of high rof ammo dumping going on at sites. Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 G36 looks great! I'm indifferent towards the rest of the lineup though, it looks like they're trying to cover all the bases by pushing out lethargic ebb pistols and high ROF AEG's while also developing the more realistic EBBR's Link to post Share on other sites
Fighting Maus Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I noticed on the G3SAS that there are pictogram markings on the 70's era trigger housing. IIRC, arent pictogram selector markings exclusive to the all plastic "navy" lowers. Also the G36K lower has SEF, which would be a departure from the pictogram lower found on the TM G36C. Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
evansy Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Do not want. The G36K looks nice but why would they put SEF markings on it when the G36 has never had SEF. If they change that for the production models then I may consider the G36 but apart from that no thanks. Its the same with the G3 abomination. Navy markings on an SEF lower. Bit of a dropped ball on TMs part. Link to post Share on other sites
Dustie Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Over on popularairsoft.com news page they have nice pictures of the up coming TM pistol range for 2010... ... I'm really liking the Px4. P. Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Do not want. The G36K looks nice but why would they put SEF markings on it when the G36 has never had SEF. If they change that for the production models then I may consider the G36 but apart from that no thanks. Its the same with the G3 abomination. Navy markings on an SEF lower. Bit of a dropped ball on TMs part. HK does make the G36 with SEF markings. http://www.hk-usa.com/military_products/g36_general.asp EDIT: Just saw TM new Line up.... .AND YES A FRIGGIN S&W M&P!!!!!! i do hope it a M&P45, that would be even sweeter, but if its like the XD, and in 40 thatll be fine to basically the same size. and yea YES to the HK45, XD40, and PX4! Link to post Share on other sites
evansy Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I stand corrected. I still dont like the SEF markings tho and would prefer the pictograms. Link to post Share on other sites
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