chas Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Why not Desert Tech MDR? https://www.google.es/search?q=desert+tech+mdr&client=ms-android-samsung&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=tYcqVZCiEIT2OraCgeAC&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=533&bih=246 Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 ^ was hoping when someone would mention it, would make a great bullpup and possibly less technically challenging than the AA12 Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Nowhere near as cool as an AA12 though. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 is it worth hoping that the AA12 use a similar system to the Russian shell ejector (the one that uses decapped 12g shell) Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Why not Desert Tech MDR? https://www.google.es/search?q=desert+tech+mdr&client=ms-android-samsung&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=tYcqVZCiEIT2OraCgeAC&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=533&bih=246 Hol canoly Batman! Thats a bullpup I would buy in a heartbeat @_@ Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Why not Desert Tech MDR? https://www.google.es/search?q=desert+tech+mdr&client=ms-android-samsung&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=tYcqVZCiEIT2OraCgeAC&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=533&bih=246 Probably because the real steel is still under development and they went through several versions already. Maybe later. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 is it worth hoping that the AA12 use a similar system to the Russian shell ejector (the one that uses decapped 12g shell) I was hoping they would add an AA12 to their proposed line up seeing as they're planning an M4. No doubt it would be very expensive, but an automatic, GBB AA12 that uses real shells is basically my airsoft Eleanor. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 AA12 idea, what do you guys think? Gas in shell, like the PPS or the APS, an an electric motor/se to turn the drum, load and eject the shells. You could even add a recoil system in Marui style without waisting gas from the shells. So much more reliable, too. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Gas in shell is a no go imo. Too heavy and every time one hit a hard surface I would cringe and worry it was knackered. Drum shouldn't need any motorizing. Just spring fed as RS. That all just sounds massively complicated. Personally, the Russian RS shell fed/Maruzen shells would be what I was after, with a HPA tank in the stock. Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 what i want - GBB Using m870 Trishot system for shooty shooty with seperate dedicated C02 BBU. What i think we will get - plasticy shell V2 GB 1 barrel £400+ price tag and retailers talking down to use "because airsofters are whiney" Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 The most viable option is the TM gas shotgun system, 3 or 6 shot, large gas tank. A recoiling bolt would be nice but I could imagine it would be difficult to get the timing right etc... on my phone, my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I can see players in fields playing with that sniper, spring and/or gas, but I dont see the regular players in my regular fields playing with that AA12 in a GBB fashion, not a very representative segment, I know, but if a brand wants money for their R&D, the gun must be appealing to as many people as possible. If done well, an AA12 AEG can be more popular than a GBBR Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 if its a full auto trishot (as the real thing is not select fire iirc) then in CQB it will be amazing. I can see alot of the gamer crowd wanting it same sort of people who buy barret .50s that are just v2s in huge bodies. Link to post Share on other sites
aaron2310 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I've loved the AA-12 for years now. And I've been waiting for an airsoft one. But I agree - gas or go home. I want loud, noisy and damn fun. I just don't see that happening with an AEG. It'd be so underwhelming. I'll keep an eager eye on this. And that Desert Tech MDR is gorgeous. I'd love to see one of those in airsoft form too. Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I was hoping they would add an AA12 to their proposed line up seeing as they're planning an M4. No doubt it would be very expensive, but an automatic, GBB AA12 that uses real shells is basically my airsoft Eleanor. Has anyone seen anything more than talk from those guys? I want to see a review of one of their guns and prices. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Check the thread. Quite a few pics and proposed prices for their proposed range. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Do Silverback have any history of making/developing systems other than traditional type AEGs (as far as non-pistols go)? ... I'll just google it myself, I have fully functioning hands. ... According to their site, the only full weapon they've made is their bizon. But they've made parts for the G17, Type 97 platform and VSR; as well as a really random assortment of other miscellaneous bits. Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 is it worth hoping that the AA12 use a similar system to the Russian shell ejector (the one that uses decapped 12g shell) That would be good, I can actually see a gearbox in my head that could achieve that. Have it loaded electrically and discharge with gas like the old WA Jatimatic. AA12 idea, what do you guys think? Gas in shell, like the PPS or the APS, an an electric motor/se to turn the drum, load and eject the shells. You could even add a recoil system in Marui style without waisting gas from the shells. So much more reliable, too. I think that is just a very efficient electrical way of shooting a lot of expensive shells out the side of a gun and losing them. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 IMO there are two perfect versions: AEG: 3 rounds, 3 barrels, mechanical trigger (so the motor winds enough to lock the piston back, pulling the trigger releases the piston then resets the process, like the KSC HK33) Also stop firing on empty + heavy recoil with drum mag / stick mags option. External GBB: Using cheap RS shells and an external (HPA) and/or refillable internal (CO2) tank, essentially a self loading version of the Russian 870.. Judging by their history of mainly doing "conventional" guns, my guess is that this is going to be an AEG where 3 BBs are loaded into a bespoke hop chamber and fired with a normal gearbox down one barrel, where the tappet plate travels a longer distance, which could mean if your magazine isn't loaded with rounds divisible by 3, you could end up firing the last 1 or 2 shots at higher power. Link to post Share on other sites
Geri Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Check the thread. Quite a few pics and proposed prices for their proposed range. Which thread?? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/214395-russian-full-steel-12-ga-shell-ejecting-870-shotgun/ Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Airsoft Innovation will have a 19 shot shell ejecting shotgun, (Single barrel) So I don't see how the AA-12 cannot do something better . Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Going to be very different beasts I imagine. A decent M1100 sounds promising, but at the end of the day, it's not an AA12. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Wait, 19 shot as in 19 bbs or 19 shells? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 19 BBs per shell. But I'm sure I read somewhere it was 16. Link to post Share on other sites
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