fnc Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYJZMvlk8zY&feature=youtu.be Picture: other pictures : https://www.facebook.com/WE.Taitan/posts/1819024221644751 Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 AW YISS Working decocker, working cocking indicator. WANT Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 While a big fan of the PPQ series, I'm going to have to get one of these. My only worry is how long the decocker will hold up. Have to admit, WE offerings of late have been working pretty well for me, especially their P38. Link to post Share on other sites
wildething Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Oh well I will be buying a we Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 I was wondering when this would finally drop. They showed it off a few years back when they showed off the P38, Makarov and M84. Who knows why they chose to wait so long on it but if theother guns in that batch are any indication, itll be worth the wait. The P38 especially made me do a 180 on my opinion of WE pistols. And the M84 is probably the most solid airsoft pistol Ive ever felt. The PMM is nice as well but I feel the barrel is kind of a weak point and it keeps loosening. It still blows away the "Couldnt bother to make sure it works out of the box" KSC/KWA version. The Mauser M712 also seems to work really well but I havent used it enough yet to really make an estimation of longevity. So heres hoping the new trend holds for them. It'd be nice to have a P99 that works better then maruzens version that absolutely will fail on green gas. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunnman Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 About *fruitcage*in' time. Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 The PMM is nice as well but I feel the barrel is kind of a weak point and it keeps loosening. Just superglue that screw in. Only mod needed in the PMM to turn it into the best airsoft pistol ever. I completely agree with your position. WE has make a great turnaround lately, and their newest pistols are among the best... so much so I would dare to say the are THE best pistols available. So my hopes are high for this new model. Link to post Share on other sites
Bada Bing Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Wow! Their P99 looks great! Edit: My old Maruzen GBB had a DA and SA style trigger and it looks like the WE lacks the single action... Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 My maruzen's p99 trigger didn't set back like an m9 when you racked the slide. Internally it did, so it still felt ok bringing the trigger back against the sear. And after firing the trigger stays back. It was weird. Edit:I just watched the video and it appears that the we trigger will always return forward. But I would expect it the still have a light and short pull after meeting the trigger to the sear. Probably don't even have to let the trigger all the way out. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Could have SA/DA but the trigger always resets to the same position? Link to post Share on other sites
Feyd Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Wooooooooo! Been waiting for this since it's sneaky appearance in that p38 video... Got my hopes up when that 1799 abomination came out :-p Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Bada Bing Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 I always liked that feature on Maruzen's. Rack the slide and squeeze the trigger until it locks to the second stage and it lets off that shot with just a smidge more pull. Also a downright shame it never liked green gas as Brigg mentioned Link to post Share on other sites
Wooly_Booly Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 I was wondering when this would finally drop. They showed it off a few years back when they showed off the P38, Makarov and M84. Who knows why they chose to wait so long on it but if theother guns in that batch are any indication, itll be worth the wait. The P38 especially made me do a 180 on my opinion of WE pistols. And the M84 is probably the most solid airsoft pistol Ive ever felt. The PMM is nice as well but I feel the barrel is kind of a weak point and it keeps loosening. It still blows away the "Couldnt bother to make sure it works out of the box" KSC/KWA version. The Mauser M712 also seems to work really well but I havent used it enough yet to really make an estimation of longevity. So heres hoping the new trend holds for them. It'd be nice to have a P99 that works better then maruzens version that absolutely will fail on green gas. I love my M84's. I'll see if I can't relocate it, but it's actually possible to make them DA by removing a small portion from the trigger bar. I don't recall whether it's DA/SA or DAO as I haven't done it to my own, but it led me to believe WE intended on it being that way. Only thing aside from that not accurate to the real ones is that your able to actuate the hammer while the magazine is removed. The WA model replicated this, but it needlessly complicated the design. We know we're getting a good hop-up design with the P99, I'm just curious to see how they designed the lower. The designs on the Maruzen were absolutely horrendous. This is also one of the first somewhat modern pistols WE has released in a while, I'm curious to see where they'll go with this. Maybe we'll get more Walther family pistols or even a compact model like they did with the XDM, M&P, and PX4. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 The WE M84 does actually replicate the trigger of the real one (or one of them as the real m84 comes in several varieties). How it works is the double action only engages if the hammer is at the "safe" position. Meaning you have loaded a round and decocked it. From that position, it is on safe with the hammer down and a round chambered. Flicking the safety off allows you to fire the first round in double action. If the hammer is fully dropped, the double action doesn't engage. This is how some m84s actually operate. Though I'm not sure of the magazine disconnect. That may be a real feature but it definitely isn't on the WE model. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 WE Mars P long long Is that really the official WE name for this? haha! Not too excited about an old school P99, but as always, any new WE model is welcome Link to post Share on other sites
MarsdenH Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Finally, been waiting for the release. The only disappointment that I have is that they chose to replicate the Gen 1 P99 and not the Gen 2. I'm hoping that WE's offering will fit in all the holsters I use for my real steel. Also hoping that it runs off glock mags, but we will see. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Regarding the trigger reset, from Wikipedia: "The original, first-generation P99 had a traditional Double-Action/Single-Action trigger with a decocker. When the slide is racked completely to the rear upon loading, the trigger remains in the forward position for the first shot and the Anti-Stress mode is activated, where the striker is cocked but the trigger has the length of pull of the double-action mode." Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpbot Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 It looks fantastic, but the WE trademarks are a bit obnoxious. No trades are better than fake trades! Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 It's only a matter of time before HK3P / New Age / Hogwarts / Mafioso / Nebula / other 3rd part companies and or aliases or WE create frames and slides with correct markings... Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Well, it's a prototype. WE normally use no markings at all, or only subtle ones. I don't think all those WE trades are going to be in the production model. I don't know how you can tell if it has the short pull SA mode or not (except from the failure to show that feature in the video). IIRC the real P99 has a really short and crisp trigger reset, but if you let go off the trigger, it will go all the way forward, unlike other SA / DA pistols like the Makarov. But I'm by no means a P99 expert, and have pretty crappy memory to be honest, so I might be completely wrong Link to post Share on other sites
MarsdenH Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 On gen 2 P99's after the DA first shot, even if you let off the trigger, it doesn't reset all the way forward. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Dont know about ever seeing trades on this as I believe Umarex has bought the trades rights I believe (based on the fully traded PPQ). Thats a fight that I dont think WE is going to want retailers to have to deal with. No trades at all is fine (such as on their new model 1911A1). I just want a nice representation of pistol. As they did with the Walther P38. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Seems these are released now: https://ast-gun.airsofttaiwan.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1457 Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Thanks for the up-date. Prefer the PPQ but definately have to get this. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Great price point if nothing else (80 USD if you don't care to click the link) Agreed though that PPQ > P99 so I will pass on this one. Link to post Share on other sites
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