screamin_weasel Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 they would have to re-cut the inside of the box aswell then. edit - infact, im not even sure a 74 mag would fit in the box (although im going simply by judgment form pics, i havent ever compared or even hled a 74 mag) Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 I have a G&G 74 style hicap right here, and its the same overall shape as the 47 mag I have. Well, very nearly anyway. And it fits in the slot in the foam in the Matrix AK's packaging at least. This isn't how it should be, 74 mags should be shaped differently AFAIK, but it's how it is. Link to post Share on other sites
FW200 Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Actually.. http://www.wgcshop.com/WGC_Shop/images/gg_aeg_rk104.jpg It looks more like a AKM magazine, but then black and with notches.. So the curve is like an AKM mag (curved like old 47 mag and more curved than 74) But the look of the mag is like a 74 mag.. This would be the proper mag : http://www.sturmgewehr.com/bhinton/AK/AK_104_7.62_5.45.jpg At the top is the Ak-104 (curved 7.62x39 mag), at the bottom an Ak-105 (less curved 5.45x39 mag) Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 The 'G&G AK74' mags are just polymer AK47 magazines. AK74 magazines have a lesser curvature to them. Just to clear things up. Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Anyway, they'll fit in the foam. I'll be very surprised if they don't ship with a 74-looking mag pictured with the gun, preproduction sample notwithstanding. Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 does anyone else know what these might cost when ported to UK distributors? (well, probably not...) so, i thought, if you could find the factor at which the price changed from WGC to something like AA, then wouldn't you come to the approximate price for the RK104? eg: WGC price, GR300S = £472 AA price, GR300S = £389.99 factor = 0.82625 WGC price, UMG = $280 AA price, UMG = £249.99 factor = 0.892821428 average factor = 0.859535 therefore, the RK104 ought to cost £279.99 (ave factor x RK104 price) <edit> i did a larger sample size (including items from WA which are pricier) and came up with a price of £283.71 anyone think i'm on to something here? Link to post Share on other sites
W.K.Shuridys Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 The 'G&G AK74' mags are just polymer AK47 magazines. AK74 magazines have a lesser curvature to them. Just to clear things up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> THANK YOU! Finally someone who understands that caliber isn't dependent on the material your magazine is made of. Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Which is why I refferred to it as a 74 style mag, not a 74 mag. I had no idea there actually were 74-esque AK47 mags though... Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 jesus, is it such a big deal? Link to post Share on other sites
W.K.Shuridys Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Massive. Just like calling all AR-15 based weapons "Armalites". Hehe Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 jesus, is it such a big deal? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't think it was. I was just trying to point out that the mag would fit in the package... Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 The real AK104 is 7,62 and comes with a modern magazine. Both a steel magazine and a 74 style plastic magazine (with 7,62 curvature) are correct magazines for this gun and fit in the same slot in the box. It appears that production versions are supplied with the plastic magazine, which is cosmetically and technically all correct and nice. So can we drop this magazine issue already? -Sale Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Yes please. So, anyone read or know anything to back up the statement "all dimensions are true to the real steel" as Redwolf claims here? It's tough for me to to tell based on photos... Link to post Share on other sites
Herr_Heckler Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 EXCELLENT review and pics sir!!! Made me drool on my keyboard so pardon any mispellings. I do hope they come out with a woody 47 version as I'd really love to have that next to my AR/M16 and for those OPFOR assignments. Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 i hope that this is released at the price that it should be released at (about 270) because if it is, Kerching! Link to post Share on other sites
Kukailimoku Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Without modding I was under the impression that it is compatible with the guarder stocks and handgaurd sets like this one: http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9954/odfurniture6qr.png Which only fit the guarder kits (probably be modded though) would fit without any modding. I may just be delusional though <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What was that game...Freedom Fighters... Where the Russian invaders had AKs with OD furniture? I may have to recreate that. *Edit - Removed image code. Link to post Share on other sites
Eul0gy Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 do you think that the Star 30 round mags will work with it ? Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 What was that game...Freedom Fighters... Where the Russian invaders had AKs with OD furniture? I may have to recreate that. *Edit - Removed image code. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, most of the russian guns had OD furniture, pretty nice touch really. Link to post Share on other sites
phatire Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 So, anyone get their hands on one of these yet? Wanting to get some real world info on how the gun is and handles, any problems that ppl are having?? thX Link to post Share on other sites
Gish Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 So, anyone get their hands on one of these yet? Wanting to get some real world info on how the gun is and handles, any problems that ppl are having?? thX <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I just picked on up this week. So far i'm pretty pleased with the out of the box look and the basement plinking. It's very solidly built and all the machining is of good quality. The included Hi-cap is the 74 style, but very cheaply made (Front lip is plastic and is bound to break in the near future) There is a bit of a feeding problem because G&G decided to put a bit of rubber in the magwell to prevent mag wobble, but at the moment it prevents feeding. I'm sure with either a little working in, or shaving it down a bit that problem will disappear. The stock is also quite long, much longer then the TM Ak series. You can fit a full sized 9.6 3000mah battery in there if you wanted to. Firing is nice, the mechbox is a little louder then a TM gun. I haven't had a skirmish with this yet so I don't know about long term. Link to post Share on other sites
Ubar Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 I beleive the stock is NATO length, rather than russian length... Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 It is. It also doesn't fold... Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 could anyone confirm the thread on the front? reports are its nearer 20mm than 14mm Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Thats another bugger, then. I've had mine since before Christmas and in the first skirmish I fell quite nastily and aprt from jogging my neck a treat it also appears to have jogged the barrel in my AK/RK and it now shoots around 4 feet higher at a range of 40 feet. Sh*tsticks. Also the bolt is stiff as hell, and does not make the satisfying metal clanking noise that I was led to believe it did. It makes a soft plastic/metal slither, but its tight as hell so there's no point trying to listen to it! I am not a tinkerer and I will destroy it if I try and take it apart, but despite it not being the guns fault for the problem in aiming, this gun is a gun of woe as far as I'm concerned. Boo. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 could anyone confirm the thread on the front? reports are its nearer 20mm than 14mm <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's not 14mm- Link to post Share on other sites
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