Pave_Hawk Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 If you don't mind me asking, what's the flashlight on that HK416? Getting an HK416 soon, but not too sure what brand/type of flashlight to get. Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Surefire X200? Link to post Share on other sites
Milla Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) Seriously though, isn't it just a cool ris/ras front end on an M4, with yet another set of differently trademarked bodies? I know I know, its the new HK and yeah it looks better than an M4 anyway, but I'm really kinda glad its not got anything new to offer that any other VFC gun already boasts, otherwise I would be tempted!! Essentially in airsoft yes, but the real ones have a brand new gas system which puts the Colt and versions like that to shame, it's a self cleaning system that easily fires in huge sandstorms and overall the weapon stays cleaner inside and fires more precise because it is from HK. So based on looks its the same thing, but inside where it counts, they are different. Edited December 18, 2006 by Milla Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Fair point. Does it make any difference in airsoft though? I'm hardly surprised that the brand new real steel HK gun is better than the 40-year-old Armalite `crate of woe` Not to be antagonistic or anything, I'm just addressing the philosophical worth of a highly expensive gun that offers nothing I can see other than sheer glamour Now, I would hardly like to detract from the overall concept of `glamour` in an airsoftual context, naturally but in this case it all seems a bit superfluous (more superfluous even than normal ). Humour me here and tell me why I may be wrong, I can see the obvious argument but if there are any more I'd love to hear why you guys can justify these 416s Personally, I just can't. Link to post Share on other sites
ErikBobbo Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 So what is the Super DX? Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Fair point. Does it make any difference in airsoft though? I'm hardly surprised that the brand new real steel HK gun is better than the 40-year-old Armalite `crate of woe` Not to be antagonistic or anything, I'm just addressing the philosophical worth of a highly expensive gun that offers nothing I can see other than sheer glamour Now, I would hardly like to detract from the overall concept of `glamour` in an airsoftual context, naturally but in this case it all seems a bit superfluous (more superfluous even than normal ). Humour me here and tell me why I may be wrong, I can see the obvious argument but if there are any more I'd love to hear why you guys can justify these 416s Personally, I just can't. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The VFC HK416 has a very good set of internals, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Kyrian_Zenda Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I'm planning on eventually getting an M4, getting some 416 sights and and RIS kit for the front to replicate the HK416 without paying tons for the VFC version. I really don't mind not having the trades, though at some point, I may see about getting the bodywork so I can have the different selector options. Link to post Share on other sites
Death By Cadbury Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 so youre going to buy an m4, an RIS kit, hk sights, "body work" and you dont think by the end of your project youre going to spend at LEAST the cost of the vfc version? good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
Kyrian_Zenda Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 It'll break up the cost, and the "body work" i'm not even sure I'll get. Plus, there's nothing better than looking at something you've made and knowing it's there because you put it together Link to post Share on other sites
El_Greco Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 It is all HK Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 (edited) I'm planning on eventually getting an M4, getting some 416 sights and and RIS kit for the front to replicate the HK416 without paying tons for the VFC version. I really don't mind not having the trades, though at some point, I may see about getting the bodywork so I can have the different selector options. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It won't look like the HK416 at all. Edited December 19, 2006 by Skarclaw Link to post Share on other sites
Arghoslent93 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 ZOMG SEXY. Is that just a regular G36C handguard slipped on in place of the regular MP5A-type guard? Looks amazing Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Schmalex Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Link to post Share on other sites
Milla Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Fair point. Does it make any difference in airsoft though? I'm hardly surprised that the brand new real steel HK gun is better than the 40-year-old Armalite `crate of woe` Lol of course it makes no diffrence in airsoft Link to post Share on other sites
Kyrian_Zenda Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 It won't look like the HK416 at all. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It'll be close enough for me Link to post Share on other sites
Souske Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) The cheap UTG MP5 retractable stock broke (really really bad pot metal). I don't like full stocks on compact guns, so I slapped on an old M4 buffer tube and stock. It's no longer as compact as it was with the original retractable stock, but this stock makes the MP5 much more comfortable when shouldering it to aim. Edited December 20, 2006 by Souske Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Schmalex Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Got some new pics. Link to post Share on other sites
j3T Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Going to step on someones toes by posting another hk416 but hey, join #icare ;p Just got an Insight M3, almost finished now. Just waiting on a VLTOR butpad. Slightly based on a Noveske N4 Diplomat. Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Schmalex Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Very nice. I'd +1 but I can't. Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Ow my toes!!! hehe I'm just asking a theoretical question, don't mind my offputting rants just because I can't justify something myself Darklite, yup I know VFCs are badass but that applies to all their new guns doesn't it? I mean if you had an Armalite (Crate.Of.Woe ) already then perhaps something like one of their AKs would be a much more likely/sensible purchase? Assuming you like them of course. I just have an appreciation for diversity and the proliferation of M4s and M16, while nothing to get on a soap-box about, is nonetheless the recipient of all my dumbstruck wonder and bewilderment because I can see no sense in owning 4 guns almost identical to each other when the world offers a hundred others that are, in my eyes, far superior aesthetically. And that include free metaphorical soapboxes as standard Link to post Share on other sites
Arghoslent93 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 I think that unless you have the money, or desire for a different project on each gun, it does indeed seem a bit odd to own 4 of the same. It'd be like me buying 3 more MP5A5's and leaving them stock, what's the point? I might as well get an SD, or a K, something a bit different that retains the qualities of the basic MP5 but offers something else. With M4's/M16's, I think it's slightly different because of the sheer potential for customisation. You can have a 416, you can have an M16A2, an M4 CQB, all are designed with specific purposes in mind, so while effectively internally the same rifle, their exteriors can vary widely, which makes ownership of many different types appealing to some. Now, if I had the money I'd get all the variants of every gun out there, but alas I do not. Roll on installment #2 of this years' student loan! Link to post Share on other sites
Milla Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Going to step on someones toes by posting another hk416 but hey, join #icare ;p Just got an Insight M3, almost finished now. Just waiting on a VLTOR butpad. Slightly based on a Noveske N4 Diplomat. http://users.pandora.be/j3T/mil/DSC01741.JPG[/img http://users.pandora.be/j3T/mil/DSC01754.JPG[/img <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Parts list plz Link to post Share on other sites
j3T Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 That should be a short list - VFC HK416 DX - King Arms modstock (looking for a real VLTOR tho) - King Arms Noveske KFH - Insight Technology M3 - Troy Industries folding battlesights - G&P short mag Link to post Share on other sites
Milla Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 thought it was a custom built 416 sorry Link to post Share on other sites
sniper_boi Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 It is all HK I am right to think that this is the most beautiful gun i have ever seen? Btw El_Greco...try finding out how to remove the Cocking handle, then put a full unmoded G36c foregrup on it, followed by a top rail of your choice....mmmm... *ahem* yeah....it looks great.. Link to post Share on other sites
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