scorch Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 That's actually very worrying. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 The fact that the site have dropped the ball shouldn't invalidate *your* defence. You're not buying from a UKARA retailer, you're importing - while a check on the database is a quick way for UKBF to check, it's not the be-all and end-all of defences and they should be aware of that. I hope someone at their end will use some sense and realise that you have a valid defence even though the site has lapsed their insurance. It might be worth getting in touch with UKARA and the UKASGB to let them know that a member site is operating without valid insurance in contravention of their rules. Link to post Share on other sites
Cannonfodder80 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Has anyone contacted the site to let them know? I ask as a few years ago my regular site had a similar issue where the insurance had been renewed but the ukara database still said it hadn't Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 That's a good point - maybe they *DO* have insurance but there's a glitch in the database. Let's hope it's that rather than the site not having insurance. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 I am speaking from a position of total ignorance but for a site to run without insurance seems such an extraordinary risk... I mean it's not implausible but I'd be minded to put it down on the UKARA peeps. Last year when I tried to get UKARA signed off by South Coast CQB they said they'd been waiting at least a month to hear back from UKARA. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 The fact that the site have dropped the ball shouldn't invalidate *your* defence. You're not buying from a UKARA retailer, you're importing - while a check on the database is a quick way for UKBF to check, it's not the be-all and end-all of defences and they should be aware of that. I hope someone at their end will use some sense and realise that you have a valid defence even though the site has lapsed their insurance. It might be worth getting in touch with UKARA and the UKASGB to let them know that a member site is operating without valid insurance in contravention of their rules. I''ve already argued that with UKBF but they claim that they cannot verify that from their end, only that my UKARA number comes back as invalid. Has anyone contacted the site to let them know? I ask as a few years ago my regular site had a similar issue where the insurance had been renewed but the ukara database still said it hadn't Have done, several times, but they have so far just told me that they are "trying to get the documents to UKARA HQ". Which seems suspect, considering that it costs all of £1.74 to send a letter by next day signed for delivery. Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 get health insurance before you get a gun also get in shape before you get a gun imo (no offence) guns are for pussies. fight like a man. I don't go to hospitals Round is a shape Tell that to the thug that's holding up the joint. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 lol ok round jason bourne Link to post Share on other sites
DrAlexanderTobacco Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 The gunman walks in. this is my moment. I draw my wakizashi and pray to the Shinto Kami. Not today, jock! Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 DarkLite's post reminds me of a day when a certain retailer was praised and considered highest in the UK while another was considered trash and awful. They are less than 50 miles away from each other. Flash forward to now and I have seen the scales switch, one bcoming better, the other clearly much worse. Well I get discount from one of them and they are cheaper overall so might just stick with them then, so much for a good business staying good. Glad we have somewhat more options now . 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 I don't go to hospitals Round is a shape Tell that to the thug that's holding up the joint. If said thug decides to put some leaks in you, you'll go to a hospital... Also, maybe sort your booze issue before you start sporting a firearm. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Also, maybe sort your booze issue before you start sporting a firearm. ^ This. Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Shmook wins the day Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 I *fruitcage* rock. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 While you're right in my opinion, let him know by PM. Sorting personal problems is best done in a personal atmosphere, not so much on a public board. Now before I come across as a wise *albatross*: let me contribute. That cute little crazy woman I met? I see very clear similarities in how my ex behaved. So am I unknowingly looking for trouble or am I seeing ghost. Don't want tight assed girls no mo. ( FireKnife, please... It's a figure of speach.) Any one know pretty girls between 25 and 30 that are fun and do not have some form of authistic behaviour? I'd like to convince myself they exist. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 While you're right in my opinion, let him know by PM. Sorting personal problems is best done in a personal atmosphere, not so much on a public board. He mentions it publicly all the time. Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Sorry to hear that Lone_Bullet. And no, no one knows any I don't think! Or I've not met any. I think you just have to shop around for one with the traits that least bug you! Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Myeah true, sad. To both of the posts above. Still have to deal with the term 'shopping around'. While I basically did, I was raised a Christian and thus my parents drilled the feeling of guilt in me. Now I have no religion but the guilt remains Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 lol ok round jason bourneNot that good but I'm a quick thinker. If said thug decides to put some leaks in you, you'll go to a hospital... Also, maybe sort your booze issue before you start sporting a firearm. Can't go into a establishment with a gun where more than 50% of sales are alcohol related. As for the hospital I'll take my chances. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Good luck with that. Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Eh, luck, that's about as bogus as the almighty. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 "In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 It's the quick and the dead, as it is I could just die in my sleep or when I get the paper in the morning. If I'm going I'm going but if I can stop just one punk I don't care. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 Harry, step away from the ale for a while. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 So, I got stood out, the pizza place gypped me, and now my stomach is objecting. Fantastic weekend all in all. Link to post Share on other sites
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