my_plague_666 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Looks Sweet <{POST_SNAPBACK}> somone slap this man, its a raped Five-seveN Link to post Share on other sites
Pyromaster Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Am I the only person in theuniverse that thinks this looks sooooooooo nice.....? *runs off to shop with savings to buy it* Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Am I the only person in theuniverse that thinks this looks sooooooooo nice.....? *runs off to shop with savings to buy it* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> apart from the guy i ordered to be hit, yes...yes you are Link to post Share on other sites
evilliboba Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 apart from the guy i ordered to be hit, yes...yes you are <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I like the look too. *runs* Link to post Share on other sites
Hauk Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 I'll hold out for KSC to cop on and make the 6mm version. On another note, I like the look too. unsure.gif *runs* GET HIM!! Hauk Link to post Share on other sites
r.ocelot Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Does anyone here have some kind of specs for this gun? Such as FPS, mag cap, and possibly other useful info? Link to post Share on other sites
sekiryu Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 We will when it's released... Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Am I the only person in theuniverse that thinks this looks sooooooooo nice.....? *runs off to shop with savings to buy it* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You better beg to be on my team today ahh j/k Seriously though, if the damn 8mms weren't ten times the price of 6mm then I might consider buying into the cailbre...but ten times the price? Screw you Marushin, I'm going home. Link to post Share on other sites
esteves Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Also, as regards the 8mm 5-7: THE DIAMETER OF THE OUTERBARREL ON THE REAL FIVESEVEN IS ABOUT 8mm. THAT is why I am appalled. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The outer diameter of the real FiveseveN barrel is 10mm. I've measured mine (I have all four models of the FsN and two Jarvise barrels) and it is so. http://www.jarvis-custom.com/Products/tabi...88/Default.aspx also specifies 10mm. Link to post Share on other sites
Maruta Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 You better beg to be on my team today ahh j/k Seriously though, if the damn 8mms weren't ten times the price of 6mm then I might consider buying into the cailbre...but ten times the price? Screw you Marushin, I'm going home. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's just as expensive a comparison of 5.7mm with other pistol calibres, more or less. It's more "realistic" in that respect. Link to post Share on other sites
sekiryu Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 THAT is why I am appalled. Why are you appalled at an airsoft gun showing realism? Link to post Share on other sites
dcentity2000 Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 I like the look too. *runs* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Me too. I do think that it's probably the least amazing Five seveN ever but it's still cool Rich:: Link to post Share on other sites
zentaurus Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Heh, one hint of realism: real 5-7 ammo=expensive. 8mm ammo for airsoft 5-7=expensive. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> and to make mine really unique i am willing to pay for limited run OD bbs for woodland, and black stealth ones for night games Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Baaaah, why doesn't anyone get that it's mostly about cost and performance. Possibly because people were whining: "Oh noes it's not realistik size!" from an economical view their move was less than optimal. The fact that a 6mm version would have been a bit more true to the original just adds insult to injury, so please all you flame-trolls, go bother someone else. As said before, it's Marushin: This was to be expected. They make 8 mm BBs. If you think you know their market that well, why don't you offer them your advice? I'm sure they would appreciate some armchair-consult telling them how to run their business. "Emo" seems to be the new "script kiddie" or something like that, people without good arguments slap it onto everything they dislike to ridicule it instantly. My arguments about the inner barrel vs. realism -problem were bad? I thought it was worthy to point out that airsoft guns are unrealistic if you look at them from the front, so it doesn't matter if it's 8 or 6 millimeters. And as others have pointed out, there are quite a few models with a much larger difference between the airsoft caliber and real caliber, and no-one's complained about those before. It's more like people use the "wrong size barrel" as an argument because they want to see problems with this pistol. It wasn't the exact model they wanted and it uses less common and more expensive BBs, so people suddenly make up problems of things that weren't bothering them before. Making a problem mountain from a mole hill is EMO in my book. I'd like to encourage y'all to sit back and wait for the 6 mm version, which should follow. I don't mean to stomp on you, but some people need a bit of a shove to get their attention. 5-7 fanboys are like starving beggars on the street. Then a man named Marushin walks by and offers them food. But the beggars whine that it has too many peas in it. QFT. -Sale Link to post Share on other sites
zentaurus Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 I like the look too. *runs* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> he's not . . . i REALLY really like the look let's go get him Link to post Share on other sites
zentaurus Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Possibly because people were whining: "Oh noes it's not realistik size!" As said before, it's Marushin: This was to be expected. They make 8 mm BBs. If you think you know their market that well, why don't you offer them your advice? I'm sure they would appreciate some armchair-consult telling them how to run their business. My arguments about the inner barrel vs. realism -problem were bad? I thought it was worthy to point out that airsoft guns are unrealistic if you look at them from the front, so it doesn't matter if it's 8 or 6 millimeters. And as others have pointed out, there are quite a few models with a much larger difference between the airsoft caliber and real caliber, and no-one's complained about those before. It's more like people use the "wrong size barrel" as an argument because they want to see problems with this pistol. It wasn't the exact model they wanted and it uses less common and more expensive BBs, so people suddenly make up problems of things that weren't bothering them before. Making a problem mountain from a mole hill is EMO in my book. I'd like to encourage y'all to sit back and wait for the 6 mm version, which should follow. I don't mean to stomp on you, but some people need a bit of a shove to get their attention. QFT. -Sale <{POST_SNAPBACK}> just wondering how many gripes there'll be if they release in 6mm ............nbb? Link to post Share on other sites
mhe Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Possibly because people were whining: "Oh noes it's not realistik size!" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think that phenomenon can be explained somehow. At first, it seems to be obvious that people prefer 6mm BBs instead of 8mm ones for reasons of cost. Perhaps they didn't want to get flamed by the "get over it you whiner"-morons and therefore tried to came up with the barrel diameter thing. I do prefer 6mm BBs because buying in into another caliber with that high costs is nothing I will do as long as I can avoid it. During this year, I'll try to get a realsteel FiveseveN as well, if I succeed I could do a side-by-side review. As said before, it's Marushin: This was to be expected. They make 8 mm BBs. If you think you know their market that well, why don't you offer them your advice? I'm sure they would appreciate some armchair-consult telling them how to run their business. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It may hve been armchair-consulting, but the simple fact that the 6mm version would sell much better should be obvious, even to them. But perhaps, if someone has to buy a few bags of their insanely expensive BBs as well, they will perhaps make more money after all. It's just a little impudent to mock airsofters who have been waiting for a skirmishable FiveseveN for years. Reminds me of that insane EULA things you have to agree to in the process of installing some software. These are long and elaborate forms of "You bend over for us and get to use our product or you can go forth and multiply..." My arguments about the inner barrel vs. realism -problem were bad? I thought it was worthy to point out that airsoft guns are unrealistic if you look at them from the front, so it doesn't matter if it's 8 or 6 millimeters. And as others have pointed out, there are quite a few models with a much larger difference between the airsoft caliber and real caliber, and no-one's complained about those before. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. They were not. But as explained above, there might have been some reason to come up with other explanations than "Bah, 8mm sucks for skirmishing." It's more like people use the "wrong size barrel" as an argument because they want to see problems with this pistol. It wasn't the exact model they wanted and it uses less common and more expensive BBs, so people suddenly make up problems of things that weren't bothering them before. Making a problem mountain from a mole hill is EMO in my book. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't think they really want to, but since the BB size it uses is all "wrong", there is one problem that can't be ignored for the majority of people. There is nothing Emo about this one I think. I had hoped for a 6mm IOM or Tactical Model, but if 6mm never comes up, I even will go with the 8mm USG one day, because it still is sexy as hell. I'd like to encourage y'all to sit back and wait for the 6 mm version, which should follow. I don't mean to stomp on you, but some people need a bit of a shove to get their attention. QFT. -Sale <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do you remember how long it took Marushin to release the 6mm P210 after the 8mm? Because if no other manufacturer comes up with a nice gun like this, I'd like to know how long I'll have to wait approximately. Link to post Share on other sites
mhe Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 just wondering how many gripes there'll be if they release in 6mm ............nbb? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Never say things like this out loud, they might be listening and do something stupid like this!!! j/k Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Tinkerbell took orders for them. He showed no pictures. I said it was a trap. Tinkerbell made lots of excuses about lack of pictures, and said I was an evil liar and that I should shut the *fruitcage* up. Everyone else who wanted a BIZON jumped on me and told me to STFU as well. Still no pictures. A YEAR PASSES. ONE GODDAMN YEAR. NO PICTURES. Then Tinkerbell announces that it was a trap, and gave the money back as there were no BIZON kits. I win. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Darklite, please get your facts straight. i NEVER took orders for the bizons, and i NEVER took money for the bizons. that means i never had money to give back when it turns out DeeDee (the person supposedly producing the kits) screwed me over by 'selling them all' to a 'mate of his' it wasn't a 'trap', either. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 <blah blah blah, no idea what i'm talking about> I win. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Anyway, i think its worth noting that marushin came out with .27g 8mm bb's not long ago, thats only a tiny bit more than most 6mm ammo. If we're lucky too they might come out with .25 or .2 in the future Link to post Share on other sites
mhe Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Anyway, i think its worth noting that marushin came out with .27g 8mm bb's not long ago, thats only a tiny bit more than most 6mm ammo. If we're lucky too they might come out with .25 or .2 in the future <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nice to know, thanks! The larger diameter will still mean more drag than the tinier BBs, but it's a start! Didn't know that there are 8mm with less than 0,34g out there. Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Tinkerbell took orders for them. He showed no pictures. I said it was a trap. Tinkerbell made lots of excuses about lack of pictures, and said I was an evil liar and that I should shut the *fruitcage* up. Everyone else who wanted a BIZON jumped on me and told me to STFU as well. Still no pictures. A YEAR PASSES. ONE GODDAMN YEAR. NO PICTURES. Then Tinkerbell announces that it was a trap, and gave the money back as there were no BIZON kits. I win. Also, as regards the 8mm 5-7: THE DIAMETER OF THE OUTERBARREL ON THE REAL FIVESEVEN IS ABOUT 8mm. THAT is why I am appalled. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When you don't know anything about the situation, it's best to shut your mouth and listen. Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Can I have my 20 minutes back? Stunt Link to post Share on other sites
zentaurus Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Can I have my 20 minutes back? Stunt <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes you can -- but only if you spend it on a 6mm 5.7 with a 10mm od inner barrel spitting out .25 OD bbs zT Link to post Share on other sites
Philip Aram Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Now an f2000 to complete my armory.. Link to post Share on other sites
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