helping_hand Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Up on the front page of AirosftNews.eu KSC: MP7A1 This one would be unexpected... if only announcement of KWA MP7A1 wouldn't be floating around for some time now. Anyhow, KSC MP7A1's price is 34,800 Yen ( 255.34 Eur) and it is said that it is special edition model. Other important details: length 380/590m, weight 1610g, magazine capacity 40 BBs. Credit to KSC and AS.eu for the picture. Lim-ed but hey, it's a GBB MP7 o.O Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Thank you please! I know quite a few people (including myself) who are very happy about this Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Damn, that looks good. Looks like both mag styles are planned too Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Anachronism327 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 yep, after hearing that KWA was coming with an MP7, I was waiting for KSC to come out with theirs Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I bet she's a lot of fun to shoot!! After they released their new MP9 I was praying this would happen! It's such a cool looking gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Wow, that would be immense for a bit of CQB heaven. Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 A bit of 'real steel' knowledge for those who don't know... H&K MP7 Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 wonder if it will be the same as the kwa? the KWA is quite powerful with green gas thanks the the NS2 gas system. bout 370 FPS. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 *** Praying it'll run reliably on Green Gas out of the box *** Link to post Share on other sites
The S.C.A.R. Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Well, it looks like the answer to Tokyo Marui's MP7, looks like there will be a tough competition for TM now (especially the KSC one being a GBB,which means more realistic, and adding on KSC's reputation for being so realistic and durable). Now I wonder what's TM's answer to this ? Link to post Share on other sites
Panzergraf Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Now I wonder what's TM's answer to this ? Another AR-15 variant Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 TM's answer is what it's always been to KSC guns, absolutely nothing... Guess I might be wrong and we'll see a swathe of TM GBB SMGs now they have the full Auto Hi-Capa Xtreme, but I doubt it. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 where and when I can get this.... Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 wonder if it will be the same as the kwa? Probably, most of their guns are exactly the same, or at least mostly the same with differing trades and materials. I expect KSC did all the R&D and setup and KWA USA are, as they do appear to do buying the export KWA models and just calling 'system 7' NS2'.... Link to post Share on other sites
Taylorb Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Looks good to me, yes please But yeh will they be stocking in the U.K if they are limited or will one have to import? And if anyone knows who's going to be getting them in and when, would be good to know Link to post Share on other sites
rws591 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 The reported price tag of almost 35,000 yen, so that would put it at about 360 dollars. No thanks, the gun looks cool but I wouldn't pay very much for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Well, it looks like the answer to Tokyo Marui's MP7, looks like there will be a tough competition for TM now (especially the KSC one being a GBB,which means more realistic, and adding on KSC's reputation for being so realistic and durable). Now I wonder what's TM's answer to this ? As Snowman said, I don't think this will compete with the TM AEP any more than an AEG will compete with the WA M4. People who are fans of the MP7 will probably buy one of these regardless of whether they've got an AEP already and people who buy one of these (and, for some reason haven't already bought an AEP) will probably end up buying an AEP when this starts to cough and splutter a bit in winter. Anybody know whether the bolt catch works on this gun? It'd be nice if GBB manufacturers were starting to improve the realism of their guns a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Probably, most of their guns are exactly the same, or at least mostly the same with differing trades and materials. I expect KSC did all the R&D and setup and KWA USA are, as they do appear to do buying the export KWA models and just calling 'system 7' NS2'.... KWA did the R&D on this MP7. they are also responsible for the "System 7". i think anyway, i still haven't actually asked KWA yet. when i said the same, i meant all the same materials. Link to post Share on other sites
Punkypink Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Ohh yum. Then again, having had the experience I've had with their M11s... its a love hate affair. Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I am pretty sure KWA is a USA branch of KSC no matter how much KWA would like to say other wise. As far as R&D goes it would make sense for them both to have done R&D on this mostly KSC because they are the ones in HK were the labor would be cheaper. As far as system 7 / Ns2 I would have to say not a hole lot of research was done because all they did was put the same concept found in their tried an trusted Glock into other pistols. Again I'm pretty sure KSC and KWA are two of the same. As Avalon is to VFC. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 KSC Corporation are based in Japan actually, but the manufacturing is done in their factory in taiwan which makes all the KSC and KWA guns (Japanese versions, HW, export etc). Not sure if the R&D is done in Japan although i'd assume it would be. Also, didn't KSC pistols come out with system 7 some time before any of the KWA guns had the 'brand new NS2!!!' system put in? Not that i don't think KWA USA is a bad idea, it certainly seems to be a very good set up but it does appear pretty clearly all they are doing is buying the KWA export versions from KSC's factory along with spares, maybe putting some input into some of the products and providing a good aftermarket service in the US. Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 This looks super. If it shoots straight (I bet it don't) & has a few fps, put me on the waiting list. Greg Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 When is it out, thats all I want to know. Gonna be first to line one up Link to post Share on other sites
RUSHER2 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 As Snowman said, I don't think this will compete with the TM AEP any more than an AEG will compete with the WA M4. People who are fans of the MP7 will probably buy one of these regardless of whether they've got an AEP already and people who buy one of these (and, for some reason haven't already bought an AEP) will probably end up buying an AEP when this starts to cough and splutter a bit in winter. Anybody know whether the bolt catch works on this gun? It'd be nice if GBB manufacturers were starting to improve the realism of their guns a bit. Yes ive had this years catalog of kwa and whats coming up in 2009 and theres tons of new M4 variants and Czech guns and the KWA MP7 is in there and it says funtioning bolt catch and charging handle with bolt lock back when gun is empty :] EDIT: the kwa mp7 in the catalog does have the HK trades. Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Yes ive had this years catalog of kwa and whats coming up in 2009 and theres tons of new M4 variants and Czech guns and the KWA MP7 is in there and it says funtioning bolt catch and charging handle with bolt lock back when gun is empty :] EDIT: the kwa mp7 in the catalog does have the HK trades. Any more details on the Czech models? New CZ variants perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
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