Romulus Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 how solid is the gun with the stock folded out? folded in? The stock is rock solid when it is out. I have really tugged on it and I can't even get it to move side to side. If I hold the gun by the end of the stock and swing it around there is a tiny bit of vertical rock but frankly I'm abusing the gun to get even that. When the stock is folded it stays in place but it seems like the alignment with the latch is a little off (it clips on the very bottom of the attachment plate on the stock). However, this is mainly cosmetic because once the stock is snapped home in the folded position it is not going to pop loose. For all I know this is simply a replication of the real gun and it's all in my head. btw do you have any comments on the wood? i am most likely going to replace my wood with a VFC set or try and source a real set.. I took the whole front end apart today to do some aging work and got to have a better looks at the wood. It is not a accurate replication of RS AK wood but it does look the part (functional but a bit rough around the edges) and is very solid. My plan is to hunt down some RS AK hand guards when I get the chance but in the meantime I would like to strip the wood, ding it up some, and then try Grim's used motor oil and burial treatment on it. last question, did you find any rust or damage when you got it from rsov? The only damage on the whole package was a hole punched in the box itself. RSOV actually just tuned the box inside out for shipping and even went as a far as stuffing in a few other items that I had ordered. However, I never really cared about boxes so it didn't bother me. The gun was minty when I received it. Honestly I was hoping for some rust but I'm sure it is nothing that a bit of salt water cannot take care of. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Dumb question: What technique are you using to "wear" your AKSU? Link to post Share on other sites
Romulus Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Still trying things out. I actually go pistols only most of the time (since I'm more causal than serious) so finding a comfortable way to 'wear' an AEG, especially a heavy one, doesn't come naturally to me. If anyone has a suggestion I'd be happy to hear it. Link to post Share on other sites
lovecraft25 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 fryxharry, Real AK74M/AK10x folding stock is hollow too. Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Still trying things out. I actually go pistols only most of the time (since I'm more causal than serious) so finding a comfortable way to 'wear' an AEG, especially a heavy one, doesn't come naturally to me. If anyone has a suggestion I'd be happy to hear it. Steel Wool works. As does these foam backed sanding pads I found at my local Hardware store. They work really well actually. Look back a few pages to my Worn AIM-in-progress. Link to post Share on other sites
kaptenn Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 (edited) Today I was reminded of how much I like the looks of the underfolding stock, but also how much I hate it from a practical point of view. Got my RS type 56-1 from Gunners today. It´s more durable than the ground, all I´m gonna do now is to install a higher spring. Stupid imagevenue, resizing the pictures. Edited May 26, 2008 by kaptenn Link to post Share on other sites
BP-anon Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Random Q: is there any clone AK74 with either solid poly, folding poly, or skeleton stock that doesn't have problems with the stock tangs snapping off? Seems like every single one is weak in that area, from the reviews I've read. Link to post Share on other sites
BoE.Solidius Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) Random Q: is there any clone AK74 with either solid poly, folding poly, or skeleton stock that doesn't have problems with the stock tangs snapping off? Seems like every single one is weak in that area, from the reviews I've read. The ones a few of my friends have played around with the stocks have either cracked or the AEG had major internal problems. Key word is clone kids. Buy an actual MFG'd AK74 from a trusted brand name. G&G, VFC, Inokatsu, RS, TM, and ICS. You get what you pay for. EDIT: The only clone company I can think of that makes a rugged AK is Kalash. Edited May 27, 2008 by BoE.Solidius Link to post Share on other sites
FW200 Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 I'd get a Kalash or Cyma above a G&G imo.. had nothing but trouble with my G&G Rk103.. Link to post Share on other sites
Fin Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) I havent uploaded any pics in a while so here goes VFC AKS74N with RS plum furniture, mags and sling (looking a lot more shiny than normal) Kalash AKS74U with compression strap Weeee Edited May 27, 2008 by Fin Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Key word is clone kids. Buy an actual MFG'd AK74 from a trusted brand name. G&G, VFC, Inokatsu, RS, TM, and ICS. You get what you pay for. EDIT: The only clone company I can think of that makes a rugged AK is Kalash. so you suggest the brand that is most infamous for breaking stock tangs of all time. classic. kalash/dboys stock hinges have been known to break if they are the pot metal ones. the never full steel (except the barrel) AKSU however has steel stock hinges and should have no such problems. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 The only breakage I observed and worried about on my old RK-02 (and not the new one) was the locking button on the rear. Side folding wise, I would go with the following: -VFC -RMW/Inokatsu/LCT -DBoys/Kalash (if you're gonna be rough with your AK, stop at the above two) The CYMA is still a little weak in that area, in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM! Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 I dot trust kalash after seeing my m8's SU after a drop fron 1M id rekomend RMW or VFC they are STRONG as AK should be! Link to post Share on other sites
SACSlym Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Anyone who thinks the CYMA AK series isn't reliable and rugged has either never thrown one in the mud and kicked it around or is just ###### off they paid VFC 400 and that everyone else only has to pay 120. Thinking a brand name soley makes a product better is ignorant, only testing and usage of every brand from year to year can qualify you to talk trash. This little bee found that with one quick grease cleaning and a Tightbore his CYMA AKSU could out perform and out last the 2 VFC AKSU's he had previously upgraded. When I chrono her, the FPS is ALWAYS 379.2-379.8 never above or below, and I've rarely seen a gun accomplish that sort of consistency, certainly not the VFC. Link to post Share on other sites
Fizzy Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Having both a VFC and a CYMA, I can definitely say the quality of materials used in the VFC is far superior than that of the CYMA. The wood and the metal of the CYMA definitely feel cheap. That's fine, because they are, but saying the CYMA is as good as the VFC is utter tosh IMO Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodsword Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Yeah, but the price tag on the VFC is 3x bigger. Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Inokatsu for the win! ok VFC for the win!! ok ok Kalash for the win!!! BTW i'm running a lipo 11.1v battery in my VFC. no upgrades and the rof is scarey! Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Anyone who thinks the CYMA AK series isn't reliable and rugged has either never thrown one in the mud and kicked it around or is just ###### off they paid VFC 400 and that everyone else only has to pay 120. Thinking a brand name soley makes a product better is ignorant, only testing and usage of every brand from year to year can qualify you to talk trash. This little bee found that with one quick grease cleaning and a Tightbore his CYMA AKSU could out perform and out last the 2 VFC AKSU's he had previously upgraded. When I chrono her, the FPS is ALWAYS 379.2-379.8 never above or below, and I've rarely seen a gun accomplish that sort of consistency, certainly not the VFC. Easy nitro. Calm the hell down. I will repeat my belief (backed by experience) that the CYMA AKs will not stand up to being abused, externally. Internally, maybe. That said. Take a chill pill, because you've got some nasty reverse fanboyism going on. Link to post Share on other sites
MrBlanks Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 I dot trust kalash after seeing my m8's SU after a drop fron 1M id rekomend RMW or VFC they are STRONG as AK should be! ... but thats the old one. The new full steel ones are probably more rugged. We just have to wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites
Fizzy Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Yeah, but the price tag on the VFC is 3x bigger.That wasn't he point though, this was: Thinking a brand name soley makes a product better is ignorant Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodsword Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Some reports state that VFC / Ino internals arent especially good, not even Cyma level. Link to post Share on other sites
kaptenn Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Are there any rubber recoil pads for the underfolding stocks? Maybe I´m just imagining things, but I think I´ve seen one on an AKMS. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 The regular rubber recoil pad has slots to slide it onto underfolding stocks. It looks tits that way. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Some reports state that VFC / Ino internals arent especially good, not even Cyma level. VFC internals are perfectly fine. They're not the best but thats why aftermarket upgrade parts exist. The only real beef that i have with VFC internals is that they come with plastic bushings and they dont locktite their piston heads. Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Anyone who thinks a CYMA is just as sturdy as a VFC or Inokatsu or RMW is just fooling themself. There are reasons they cost more, one of those being that they use better materials which are stronger. Link to post Share on other sites
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