julietcharlie Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 From the mags I have you can look at the bottom cast mold marking, they are different, so all you have to do is remove the bottom plate and look there On the right is the thicker walled mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
julietcharlie Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) double post sorry Edited June 1, 2009 by julietcharlie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rottenotto Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) FYI I keep all my gas charged, partial or full. Only mags I have ever see leak are: - Hudson Jerico mags (they leak no matter whats been done to it) Â Â So no they aren't cheap mags, keeping them charged keeps their seals, period. Â haha - Im not the only one who wasted money on the Hudson Jericho! Â Lord, that one is on my short list of 'biggest POS airsoft purchases ever'. Â If you think their airsoft guns are bad, try any of Hudson's PFC/cap firing model guns! Â They wont fire more than 2 rounds without a complete jam. The scorpion wont even fore a single round. Â In terms of "horrible engineering", Hudson gives TOP Japan a run for its money. Edited June 1, 2009 by rottenotto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Net Ronin Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Hello, someone knows if the G&P RAS II fit well on the WE M4 ? Thanks ! My friend has G&P RAS II on his . He said it fit well. He got from a guy who took that out from his G&P gun.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmc10 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 WETTI Â all of my five mags are leaking already! i opened it up and all of my mags rubber seals are torn to bits, this is the big rectangular seal. Â i also noticed that the corners of the rectangular magazine cover are being bent outwards by the pressure inside the mag. i only fill my mags with taiwan greengas and only fill it for 12secs. Â you told me to contact AB about it but he had no seals for sale. but he also told me that he gave me a free seal replacement but didnt got any. my WE m4 is a tad better than WA in terms of price and durabilty but exploding and leaky WE mags renders my WE M4 USELESS. Â Â i would not consider CO2 mags simply because co2 cartridges are expensive! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marky [UE] Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 From the mags I have you can look at the bottom cast mold marking, they are different, so all you have to do is remove the bottom plate and look there On the right is the thicker walled mag.  I just checked my 2 gas mags and both are as I expected the earlier design. These pictures of the newer design show a substantially upgraded magazine. I intend to use CO2 as my primary choice and my first 2 mags were for testing, although they would also be handy as back-up mags. Taking everything into account I am not confident enough to use my 2 earlier mags on exercise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eliminator Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I used my 7 mags(earlier design) on a french major OP on 1-2-3 May in Amneville, and temp was around 28-30°C. After filling up with gas and amo, I let all mags stored on the top of my car for nearly an half hour and none exploded. They were only hot. Don't know if they would have been able to stay there longer, but 30minutes on top of a car in a 30° sunlight is pretty good! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I just checked my 2 gas mags and both are as I expected the earlier design. These pictures of the newer design show a substantially upgraded magazine. I intend to use CO2 as my primary choice and my first 2 mags were for testing, although they would also be handy as back-up mags. Taking everything into account I am not confident enough to use my 2 earlier mags on exercise. Â As long as you don't store them fully charged in direct sunlight for ages you will be ok. Charge them when you need them for a game then stow them in your LBV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rottenotto Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) ^ holy retardedly huge photos batman! Â BTW, here is the new china copy GBB M4 in action.... Â ebaybanned GBB M4 rifle - Â Note the AWESOME "quality control" as the RIS squeaks and rotates while firing. Assembled like *chaffinch* right out of the box. China made junk. Edited June 1, 2009 by rottenotto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Video's been removed. Â Holy broken link, Batman! Â Â Ben. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rottenotto Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Video's been removed. Holy broken link, Batman!   Ben.  It was up 5 seconds ago. I guess they didnt like the comments they were receiving! Not a "flattering" video for their new rifle.   Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 You don't have to quote my post if it's right below yours  And what did the blowback look like? Paint quality of the receiver?  Ben. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lupus78 Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I wonder if the inner parts of the new CO2 nozzle are compatible with old versions? Â I would really love to try the 300fps #42 brass-part in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Dee Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I have just looked at my mag from my M4 that I got last month, and that it is the reinforced type. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leejinwen Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 The mags I got from horizon tact are reenforced Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmc10 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 all of my mags has 2.6mm walls too...  wetti  where in the world can i get rubber seal replacements for my mags????         Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 A few frantic minutes later of opening my 4 mags' bottoms: only the magazine that came with the gun is of the old type (which I'm retiring anyway since its all ratty from being dragged around). I had fun though, like a morbid version of those lottery scratch cards. Get a new type and you're good to go for hot seasoned fun. Get an old one and you've only but to count the minutes staying under the sun for your impending explosive doom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 The "old" ones are black and the new ones are kinda blue/grey right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) The old ones have a cast flash along the magazine bottom. The new one has two cast flashes across the magazine bottom. This is why Julietcharlies pics are set to wumbo. Â VVV edit: I think his just broke off if you're judging by the pics. I know the one on mine did, on the old version and on one of the new ones as well. Edited June 2, 2009 by renegadecow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Dee Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 You can also tell at the top of the mag, if the latch at the back is missing the hole corner then its the old type. But if there is a small tab at the end making the hole cut corner in to a cut-out then it is the new type. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew March Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Are the inner barrells on Airsoft Buddy the only ones that fit the WE M4? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 moah, what a freaky §$%!§"§%   A friend of mine ordered the M4 at airsofbuddys and I ordered some spare parts along with his order.  2x Stabilizer for Valve Guide Rod 1x Parts #59 1x Parts #122 1x Steel Bolt Carrier 1x Parts #37  The package was posted on 6-Apr-2009, arrived at the customs on 8-Apr-2009 and was released by customs on "22-May-2009". It took another week until my friend finally got it but due to his job he was able to get his hands on it last friday.  Problem: I got a "steel bolt catch" instead of the spare steel bolt carrier..  I immediatly mailed to airsoftbuddy and ask for a solution/refund.. because the bolt carriers are out of stock,..his answer:  According to we shipped out your kindly order to you already 2 months ago. Why you don't let us know what you received when you received your kindly order?  At now, our record also shows that we shipped the bolt carrier to you. If you let us know you received the wrong item that you ordered immediately. Then I may try to help to exchange. But now is already passed 2 months, I can't prove we shipped the wrong item to you. So I can't arrange refund to you.  Sorry about it.  Thanks  William Airsoft Buddy    What the..? 45.50$ for nothing?!   Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yehaw Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 they kindly screwed you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nazio Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) Complaint to PayPal then. I see for AB, stores like E-Hobby Asia still provide unreachable standards. (Or may be it was me who was lucky while dealing with them) Edited June 2, 2009 by Nazio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autotechnica Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) [rant] That's why I still don't order from ASB. I tried twice, one time they didn't even ship out my order but said they would keep checking the tracking number. Next time, they completely ignored me for a whole month, I only got my money back when I filled a claim with paypal. They emailed me back 2 weeks after I got my money back from filiing the claim to tell me that my order was ready to ship out. FU*K WILLIAM. If you aren't setup to do business properly, don't! Simple as that. A friend of mine bought some parts off ASB as well. They sent him the parts in about a month. He was constantly emailing them the whole time. 1 whole month after he had already received the parts, they emailed him and told him that all the parts were sent out today and that he should be getting them shortly... ummmmm. Pretty much if William tells you he shipped out your parts, tell him to fu*k himself and to get you a tracking number or else you'll file a claim. Filing a claim does nothing either as I've found out. Honestly, just don't buy from them, I'm so sick of them. Sorry about the foul language, I just wanted to show my disguest for this company so maybe people can read this and avoid them like the plague. WE should find some new distributors in HK/CHINA/TAIWAN, there are plenty of people willing to do business properly [/rant] Â Anyways, the mag that came with my gun was a greyish coloured mag and the finish was very smooth and kind of shiney. The new mag I bought from Horizon was flat black, had a somewhat gritty finish with no shine on it. I'm pretty sure the flat black one is the new version. I have no leaks from this mag, the old gray one leaked like a mofo, even after I systematically changed the valves (top and bottom), then the seals, then the o-rings, what a POS! Â Too bad horizon is down, I don't know who to order parts from now! Â Bry Edited June 2, 2009 by Autotechnica Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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