Victory Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 I'm pretty sure a TM tube will work, as it's MILSPEC. -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
Souske Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 It is really? No wonder I couldn't fit my Rock River Arms AR15 6 pos stock on the TM buffer tube. RRA AR15s aren't Milspec, but I didn't think TM were as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Jsres Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) yes its kinda plain looking but its beefed up internally. Edited December 29, 2007 by Jsres Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) As far as I know, there are 2 types of tubes, Civvy, and MilSpec. And yes, from what I can remember, TM tubes are MilSpec. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. -Vic P.S. And a TM stock fits on a CA tube...so might CA be MilSpec as well? Also: And as for "Daft," I had to think about it before it made sense. Are you referring to "All ghillied up?" Are you daft? Stay out of the mother *fruitcage* radiation! Edited December 29, 2007 by Victory Link to post Share on other sites
Fitzmaster14 Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) Hey guys! I saw this picture somewhere in the sniper thread I think but I can't seem to find it again. Ever since I saw the M16 in the picture, I've wanted to make the same gun. The only problem is I can't find to seem to find a full length RIS rail for the M16, where the bottom comes off ( like in the picture ) so I could mount a grenade launcher. If anyone can help me out with any possible options/solutions to my problem I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thanks in advance, and nice guns guys! http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t60/Fit...r14/M82a116.jpg Edited December 29, 2007 by Fitzmaster14 Link to post Share on other sites
T.P.Evan Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 It's beautiful...don't change it! Is that a TM XM though? If so, I suppose a change to an A1 metal receiver is good though. Nope it's the WGC custom XM built out of G&P parts. Link to post Share on other sites
CapaciousZepher Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 TM tubes are Milspec. I put a mil. version Magpul CTR on my TM based M4, no problem. Fit perfectly. Cheers! - CapaciousZepher Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltSky Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Interesting. I am thinking of buying an M16 of some kind but I was under the impression that the airsoft tubes were completly different to the RS tubes (hence the adaptors required for the Magpull stocks). This causes quite some confusion now. Or is it just the RS solid stocks that need an adaptor? Link to post Share on other sites
Souske Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) Nope it's the WGC custom XM built out of G&P parts. Well, in that case, don't change it! Beautiful guy though...less common. Edited December 29, 2007 by Souske Link to post Share on other sites
BaBaBooey Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) From my experience: STAR - Commercial Guarder - Commercial (as of 2004) Marui - Mil-Spec Systema - Mil-Spec I have not worked with others (CA, G&G, etc.). If you have ordered a mil-spec carbine stock, just simply use the original Marui buffer tube and no problems. Recently, a client had wanted a VLTOR receiver extension instead of the original Marui buffer tube. Now, why did he want this? Well, the VLTOR trade markings are nice. Also, the Marui lacks details around the castle nut, threads, etc. First, I got a G&P buffer tube adapter (on the bottom of the photo). The only modification that needs to be done is to remove material off of the end of the receiver extension (on the left). If you have a shop, just use a chop saw and takes 1 second. The adapter is screwed down like you would a Marui tube. The screw in the end shown here screws down to the gear box inside the receiver. The adapter has threads on the end where the castle nut screws down. The neat thing is, that there is enough threads left on the castle nut so the buffer tube can be screwed into it. Finally, the receiver extension attaches over the buffer tube and screws down into the castle nut. I needed to grind down material off of the end of the buffer tube since the threads don't end quite perfectly when it was first cut...else, its not quite straight. The end result is a VLTOR mil-spec buffer tube attached to an airsoft receiver. There are other easy mods that can be done if you want the batteries in the stock or tube, but I think they've already been posted here. Hope this helps. Edited December 29, 2007 by BaBaBooey Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) So any tube modeled after the marui, like the Guarder that says it is for Marui Stocks... Will fit a milspec stock, correct? Would king arms stock tubes fit marui stocks (therefore also fitting Milspec Stocks) like this one here (excerpt from WGC) http://www.wgcshop.com/WGC_Shop/images/ka_acc_m405b.jpg KA-ACC-M405B - Number marking on stock tube. Marking shows through opening on stock. - Includes caps for fitting 6 Position Stock / MOD Stock - Suitable for M4 Series Edited December 29, 2007 by Vercingetorix Link to post Share on other sites
BaBaBooey Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 So any tube modeled after the marui, say king arms, or the Guarder that says it is for Marui Stocks... Will fit a milspec stock, correct? I'm not sure about King Arms. I noticed Guarder does NOT say explicitly it will take Marui stocks, only that it can be assembled identical to the Marui and can be used on Marui receivers. The tube I purchased stated it will only take specific Guarder stocks (which are all commercial). Bottom line is, anything prior to 2004, Guarder tubes are most definitely commercial. I have no idea about their newer ones. Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Where could I find the Marui stock tube? Link to post Share on other sites
BaBaBooey Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) Where could I find the Marui stock tube? I should be able to dig some up...I'm positive I have a few lying around the shop. For the record, this Guarder buffer tube is NOT mil-spec although it says it is for Marui (the original Marui carbine stock will NOT fit over it). I guess the model number is "AD-04" purchased a few years ago; it would be nice to know if there is indeed a newer version that is mil-spec - would be grateful if anyone can confirm. Just checked, Guarder's model AD-10 is also commercial, NOT mil-spec. If your planning on using a mil-spec carbine stock, don't use Guarder's stock tubes. Your best bet is to get an adapter or use the original Marui stock tube. Edited December 29, 2007 by BaBaBooey Link to post Share on other sites
pfcstoner Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 does anyone have a pictureof a CASV with an eotech? i was thinking about getting an eotech but i dont know how it will look. Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) Would you know of any other stock tubes that can be found on WGCshop.com that will fit? I am placing one gigantic order and would really like to keep it all in one place... I talked to the quite knowledgeable owner of Hotspotairsoft, in Long Island New York. I asked him if a Marui Colapsible stock would fit on a King Arms Buffer tube, and he said it should, after about four minutes, during which I believe he physically tried this out, I cannot know seeing as it was over the phone... So I may just go with a King arms tube... Can anyone confirm if marui Stocks fit on King Arms? Also how do I get the wire from the gearbox to fit straight into the buffer tube, without any of it peeking out? I realize I will have to borrow a dremel for this (my friend has one, I am getting one next month). I have a marui Plastic body, for the SR-16, and I need to get my Vltor on there with batteries in the stock... Edited December 29, 2007 by Vercingetorix Link to post Share on other sites
ssddismymotto Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 just finished painting now i need to clan my room lol. Link to post Share on other sites
MDK_Marshal Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 does anyone have a pictureof a CASV with an eotech? i was thinking about getting an eotech but i dont know how it will look. If you can hold on till mid january, I'll be able to get hold of my eotech and stick it onto my M4, which is complete with a CASV and CTR Stock. If you can't wait, then, you'd better hope someone else can post pics Link to post Share on other sites
Airsoftperson Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Just get her yesterday, and I couldn't be happier. My kitty checking out what the UPS man delivered 5 seconds prior. And me patently waiting to rip open the box... Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 God damn G&P guns are beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Very nice, although the plastic flashider is not very appealing, stinky US of A retailers... New had that problem with the overseas retailers... How are the trades? Hope they aren't mutilated Once again beautiful, now if only they sold those front ends separate... Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 ssddismymotto you didnt get the sara jane idea from the picture of the Green Beret with the SPR in Afghanistan did you, no you coudlnt have. Link to post Share on other sites
Airsoftperson Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Very nice, although the plastic flashider is not very appealing, stinky US of A retailers... New had that problem with the overseas retailers... How are the trades? Hope they aren't mutilated Once again beautiful, now if only they sold those front ends separate... Well I do have a Knight's metal flash hider but it is threaded for 14mm-, and G&P guns are 14mm+... As for the trades they were left alone, except the "Knight's" on the URX RAS... Which got through customs with only a quick swipe of sharpie across it I am not sure what I want to use to take it off... I don't want to ruin it. At least one of the main ones wasn't touched at all. Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Off to[ic question here but do ACM NSN ACOG's come with the carry handle mount as well? Link to post Share on other sites
ndfirespider Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 TCB, not sure yet, but I got one of RSOV's new ones on the way right now. Standby for a day or two more and I'll throw up a short reveiw of it. Link to post Share on other sites
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