Xander.P Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 are they wearing sordins? and in tomos post what is that on the side of the guy helmet far left? cheers xander.p Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shash Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yes, they do have Sordins. Probably an IR light or camera on the guy on left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomo Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Here are the other photo's from the sequence. Some very very intersting gear in use.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talon_0315 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Here are the other photo's from the sequence. Some very very intersting gear in use.... The most interesting piece of hardware they have are their HK416 rifles. Verry interesting. When were the photos taken? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinner101GR Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 last photo, 2nd from left. WTF is with that stance? I see the mag support, but thats not very smart (unless 416s are as awesome as they state...) Someone have more info? That stance looks completely wrong to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 ooooooooooh..... Larue ecos mounts.. nice..... 416 is coolsauce too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 MSA/Paraclete RAV, Paraclete ACU, MICH tc-2001, HK-416 with Schmidt and Bender scope for one of them, ANVIS MOUNT. AWG, for sure. So nothing to do with AF SOF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
echodafish Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 AFSOC has owned 416s in the past so you are gonna have to give a bit more to back up your claim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 matfar, are you a PJ? I've seen you on wannabe, and my dad was wondering. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 AFSOC has owned 416s in the past so you are gonna have to give a bit more to back up your claim. 24th STS has owned 416s, but they're part of JSOC, as DEVGRU, and tested it. But it's not the issued weapon in AFSOC. I'm pretty sure of what I advance, but all opinions are good @Jolly15 : PM sent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
echodafish Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) But it's not the issued weapon in AFSOC. Neither is a Glock 19 but that isn't unseen either. I work with the tool that bought the 416s for the 24STS and while I don't like him one bit, think he is a cock, and only respect him as much as I have to, I doubt he made it up completely. Edited November 3, 2008 by echodafish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Oh no, the IBH actually being used by the Air Force! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
echodafish Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 No one can slam as much cool gear into an old school setup as the AF. Could we be more messed up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Ya, being an AF brat, the AF can f*** stuff up. The AF is pretty ghetto, PJ finally got some MLCS stuff to use a couple weeks ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 PJs have been using MLCS stuff for years, it's just not covered like the ZOMG navy seals guys. But there are photos of them in PCU/MLCS stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arnie_o Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Here are the other photo's from the sequence. Some very very intersting gear in use.... a veritable 416 fest there Tomo... i think i have creamed my boxers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PynkPanthyr Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Please dont quote quote pictures. Just take the image tags out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shash Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Ya, being an AF brat, the AF can f*** stuff up. The AF is pretty ghetto, PJ finally got some MLCS stuff to use a couple weeks ago. If you will look throught the documents of military contracts you will see they have received large quantities of DBT items in the past. Right now they got some equipment in Multicam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) The 56th just got there MLCS stuff. As in the kit bag from Eagle, before, they used whatever they wanted for a second line. Edited November 5, 2008 by Jolly15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JAYALA Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 What exactly do AWG guys do? I tried wikipedia but it isn't clear to me... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomo Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 What exactly do AWG guys do? I tried wikipedia but it isn't clear to me... The Army is creating an “Asymmetric Warfare Group” to assess new tactics adversaries may use to take advantage of U.S. military vulnerabilities, according to service officials and documents. The group is expected to train forces up and down the ranks in countering such threats, with the first priority being those troops deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, officials say. As it stands, the Pentagon “has no single organization to effectively coordinate, train, integrate, deploy for, or manage” its response to asymmetric threats “within the global war on terrorism,” states the Army’s “operational and organizational concept” for the new unit. Dubbed AWG, the unit will evolve from an existing task force on improvised explosive devices the Army formed late last year, Army officials say. In January, the IED task force began training Army and Marine Corps units in tactics and technologies available to counter the makeshift bombs, which have claimed hundreds of U.S. and Iraqi lives and limbs since the insurgency began last year (Inside the Pentagon, April 22, p9). Potential countermeasures to IEDs include a variety of electronic jammers and robotic bulldozers, though the Army has kept many details secret in a bid to avoid enemy work-arounds, officials say. But to date, no “silver bullet” has been found to defeat the devices, which are detonated remotely by an array of mechanisms using different frequencies (ITP, Feb. 12, p9). The asymmetric warfare specialists—to number nearly 200 soldiers, civilians and contractors by next January—will operate much like the IED task force, but with a broadened mandate. The unit is expected to be capable of planning and training for emerging threats in both conventional weapons and weapons of mass destruction. The AWG specialists will prepare to counter high- and low-technology weapons, to include even such futuristic concepts as “ray guns,” according to a task force contractor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hendrix2247 Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Does the Eagle CIRAS see use with PJ/TACP units? Or is it uncommon due to bulkiness? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 It's seen a little bit. I'll see if I can dig up some reference pics. ** On second thought, hit up Titleist about some reference pics. He did a PJ loadout with a CIRAS while back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 I wouldn't think so, they've used RAVs in the past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hendrix2247 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I have another question: In the last picture Tomo posted, is the guy on the far right wearing an Eagle RRV? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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