Zeta labs spring Mosin Nagant!

[ninja master of coffee]

Just found this on airsoft panda http://www.airsoftpanda.com/product_info.php/products_id/2097?osCsid=ugatf8gjoqe80j77tfhr9hb250 if you go to the home page there are a few pics of parts in production. Hopefully won't be horrendously expensive!

[Isamu]

And will be based in a good sistem like the VSR10 and not so much PS2.... =(

[faramon]

Oh god another beautiful item I may need if done correctly ..

[WhiteHawksan]

whoops just jizzed, if they build that on VSR internals I'll have one fo sho even if I have to sell something to get one!

[harborne blue]

Oh for crying out loud! When are ACM going to a Lee Enfield? It's only the most widely used bolt action rifle of all time FFS!

 

Another niche gun followed by ACM complaining that they made it and no one bought it followed by another drought of WW2 and non-M4 airsoft rifles.

 

ACM - marketing by monkeys?

[TheFull9]

You talk as if 'ACM' is the name of an individual company...

[DarkMM]

Oh for crying out loud! When are ACM going to a Lee Enfield? It's only the most widely used bolt action rifle of all time FFS!

 

 

Actually the Mauser 98 was the most widely used bolt action ever - with versions used by both the US and UK (P14). Probably also being the second most widely produced rifle ever (AK47 and descendants making 1st place .

[Gunmane]

Figures, I'm listening to Farewell of Slavianka when this pops up.

 

This may turn out to be a winner, provided the barrel isn't a two piece and works properly unlike a certain other bolt action that was made...

[WhiteHawksan]

as long as they stuck the VSR mech in a Nagant Chassis I don't mind it being slightly off, at least I can turn it into a rifle I can actually shoot, and hit things with!

[harborne blue]

Actually the Mauser 98 was the most widely used bolt action ever - with versions used by both the US and UK (P14). Probably also being the second most widely produced rifle ever (AK47 and descendants making 1st place .

No it wasn't.

 

The early Lee rifles were a variant on the action firs seen in the Mauser 88 but by the time the Metford went into service, the only thing they had in common was that both used a bolt action. The Metford pioneered the shorter bolt for a quicker action and 10 round magazine.

 

The SMLE (or Lee-Enfield Mk3) carried on these themes but was further refined with a shorter body length and an move to stripper clip fed magazines. The Metford has to be loaded one round at a time.

 

This rifle saw service in all theatres in two world wars by UK and Commonwealth forces and is still in common use today. It's popular with people in remote areas because an SMLE doesn't blat away rounds like an AK.

 

The SMLE remains the largest produced and most widely used bolt action rifle. Of all time.

 

The P14 that you refer to has absolutely no link to the Mauser 98. Like the SMLE, it was brought into service approx TWENTY YEARS BEFORE Mauser finally redeveloped the 88 by reducing the bolt length and thereby speeding up the action. The P14 was an attempt to simplify the SMLE for mass production during WW1 but was not accepted by the UK. Instead it went to arm the US army when they joined in hence not only it's correct designation (the P17) but the fact that US forces had the weapon in both the US 30.06 and UK .303 calibres before US and Canadian factories got up to speed.

 

So, if your claiming that the Mauser 88 was the most produced bolt action rifle, you're wrong and if your claiming it was the 98 variant, your wrong by about 20 years and a time machine.

[Spudgun]

I would quote the above for truth, but suffice to say: The Lee Enfield No1 MkIII was introduced into service in 1907 and the 7.62mm version still is in service with the Indian Police. It's the longest serving rifle in history. 103 years and counting.

[MrM60]

Owned.

 

Im not buying it if it costs any more than a real one. I can go up to my hunting store and get a real one for $100

[DarkMM]

So, if your claiming that the Mauser 88 was the most produced bolt action rifle, you're wrong and if your claiming it was the 98 variant, your wrong by about 20 years and a time machine.

 

Hmmmm Point taken and who says you can't learn anything from Arnies

[Isamu]

 

ACM brands - marketing by monkeys?

 

Short answer to fix, "yes" all of them

[spetsnazdave87]

I would quote the above for truth, but suffice to say: The Lee Enfield No1 MkIII was introduced into service in 1907 and the 7.62mm version still is in service with the Indian Police. It's the longest serving rifle in history. 103 years and counting.

 

And two plucky Indian police officers used one Lee Enfield between them to hold off a couple of the gunmen in Mumbai... that took stones.

[l96ninja]

Yay! Assuming it's based completely on VSR internals, I'm buying one and making a Simo Hayha loadout

[Ginger_Biscuit]

Looks like it's the model 44 carbine (re: pick of the attached bayonet and the desciption text) which will be a bit of a bugger for some no doubt but remove the bayo and you've got a damn near enough model 38 to protect the motherland with!

 

As echoed by others lets just hope its skirmishable, a decent price (and the de-cocking feature) would be nice but if its a limited run then its pretty doubtfull.

 

Biscuit

[Megalomaniac]

HOLD UP.

 

I'm game so long as it costs less than a bloody real one.

[Ginger_Biscuit]

Unfortunately it has to be pretty unlikely that it will cost more than what you guys over the pond can pick up a real one for. It would nice even if it cost the same a de-act one over hear (£70-150 depending on where you go.) Fingers crossed though eh?

 

Biscuit

[RWJP]

Actually the Mauser 98 was the most widely used bolt action ever - with versions used by both the US and UK (P14). Probably also being the second most widely produced rifle ever (AK47 and descendants making 1st place .

 

Ehhh, no

 

The P14 that you refer to has absolutely no link to the Mauser 98. Like the SMLE, it was brought into service approx TWENTY YEARS BEFORE Mauser finally redeveloped the 88 by reducing the bolt length and thereby speeding up the action. The P14 was an attempt to simplify the SMLE for mass production during WW1 but was not accepted by the UK. Instead it went to arm the US army when they joined in hence not only it's correct designation (the P17) but the fact that US forces had the weapon in both the US 30.06 and UK .303 calibres before US and Canadian factories got up to speed.

 

Ummm, you're wrong. The P14 essentially uses a Mauser Bolt, modified with Lee features to make it more suited for rapid fire such as making it cock on closing rather than cocking on opening.

 

Also, it wasn't a simplified version of the SMLE... It was actually a better rifle than the SMLE, being considerably more accurate and durable and was originally designed to take an (at the time) experimental .260 cartridge and was called the P13 at the time. Obviously, producing a new bullet and re-arming an entire nations military forces during wartime was no good, so the weapon was recalibred to .303 and became the P14, which was farmed out to American companies to build as the UK simply couldn't produce enough on it's own.

 

When the Americans finally entered WW1 themselves their War Department recalibred the rifle again into the American standard .30-06 and called it the P17

 

The reason the UK never widely accepted it was because Vickers (the primary contractor) could never produce enough, and by the time that the contracted American companies had produced enough, there were already plenty of SMLEs available, and most British soldiers had already been trained on them, and then been issued them as well.

 

Saying that, P14s were still used by British forces as sniper rifles, and were re-issued to Home Guard units during WW2...

[CamOfNZ]

Am I the only one who thinks the above discussion should go to the PM's? It's gone a tad beyond off-hand trivia.

[aznriptide859]

It's just an airsoft gun guys lol.

[Schultz98]

NO its not.... its an airsoft nagant. Its magical. I hope they make 2 bolt handels for it, one for a normal setup and one for use with a PU scope

 

HOLD UP.

 

I'm game so long as it costs less than a bloody real one.

 

Unlikely, but never know. The real ones like 75-100$ lol I totally want one , at least you know you can get a real stock cheap for it.

[howitzer]

Very nice,would definitely pick one up if its skirmishable.

[DarkLite]

Just an FYI - the price will be about $250-350USD before shipping.

 

I knew a couple of the financiers for this run - they paid in a load of money for machines and tooling in return for exclusive sales rights. The factory then reneged on the contract, taking the money and selling pre-orders to several other retailers and companies etc, and then refused to pay the money back to the people they were no longer going to sell the guns to. Nice.

 

Also, yeah, they're making the carbine first. Then the standard, then the sniper variant. Internals are supposedly VSR-spec, but modified with some proprietary parts.