renegadecow Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Who cares about that electric AA12. I WANT THIS MOTHER*fruitcage*ING TRAINGUN!!! Link to post Share on other sites
MarsdenH Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I just can't get it, TM designs possibly one of the coolest systems released to date yet people still has to complain that it doesn't have some feature. I just don't get it. *fruitcage* yeah for TM continuing to innovate. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I just can't get it, TM designs possibly one of the coolest systems released to date yet people still has to complain that it doesn't have some feature. I just don't get it. *fruitcage* yeah for TM continuing to innovate. I just imagine people buying it, jacking up the ROF to full retard level and making the game unfun. A more realistic ROF (in my opinion) balances out the game a little more. But that's just me. Otherwise I'm good with this. Making it non-shell ejecting is a smart move since most consumers don't want the hassle of picking up shells after a skirmish. The only thing that'll hold back most buyers is the size of the thing. If it's anything like the RS which I've tried, it's pretty massive. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 OH GOD WANT. Curious, but is this based off an earlier AA12 design? The shape is different to more recent AA12's I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 First I have heard of any ghk ar problems, I don't own one, but I was playing around with the idea of getting the ra tech aac 300 ghk, but wanted to wait and see if the marui system was better. The fact they are being cerakoted at suzutomo means the finish will be as good as it gets, his work is truly amazing, the best selling point of the marui AR. Don't get me wrong, by far out of all the GBBRs I've owned, GHK m4 has been the best. I've had my fair share of other gbbrs including VFCs, KWA LM4s, etc. It definitely closes the gap a little more but still has me wanting a bit more. And yeah, the cerokote finish i would love, sometime i can leave in front of me just to admire... even though i already own real rifles and i fawn over those from time to time. The m4 marui gbbrs can sit next to them. Also, I'm extremely surprised with the AA12 release!!!!! I doubt a majority of us saw that coming but it's a welcomed surprise. Curious to see what it can do but good to have a new model to be seen on the airsoft field potentially. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I wonder what kind of FPS it'll be, think of a rain of 1800rpm 320fps bb...quite terrifying... Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Standard TM fare so 280-290fps. I guess the nice thing about is that despite the volume of fire it can dish out it's not sounding like a damn beehive like how those ultra high ROF guys run it. Link to post Share on other sites
Imperator Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I believe this is the most epic release to date! I surely didn't see this one coming! TM has done it again. Link to post Share on other sites
intinerious Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I just imagine people buying it, jacking up the ROF to full retard level and making the game unfun. A more realistic ROF (in my opinion) balances out the game a little more. But that's just me. That can be said of any other AEGs though. Also, since there's only 1 feed line from the mag, It's unlikely you'll be able to feed the gun at ridiculous ROFs given that it has to chamber at least 3 times per shot. Then there's also the huge brass cylinder which means that the gun has a long piston stroke. To boost ROF higher people are already short-stroking AEG gearsets to get ~40+ rps. Given that it seems like 1 cylinder provides all the air to push bbs out of 3 barrels, I don't think you can really increase the ROF by as much as your current AEG systems, and if you did you'd have to short stroke to avoid pre-engagement of the piston, which means you'll have to sacrifice the air volume in the cylinder due to short stroking, which therefore means the ceiling for FPS will also be reduced. Since the inner barrels seem to be quite long, plus you've got 3 of them, I don't think you can raise the ROF on the TM AA-12 without reducing fps drastically. Anyway, I'm just going by the pics. Would be fun if you can push the ROF higher than stock but it's a lot more challenging than doing it on a standard AEG. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Actually if I were to buy one I'd do the opposite of increasing ROF. I would slow it down to the RS spec of 5 RPS. Also, it's pretty cool that the midcap mag holds 90 rounds and therefore 30 shots. The RS drum mag holds 32 rounds/shots. Pretty close (though the midcap isn't a drum). Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yeah. Volume is at a premium In the design. I bet the highest you can get, after shortaning the barrels, not counting the feed system, is 25RPS. I'm extatic about the release. I'm going to start saving money for it now. However, though I doubt it, I hope it has a semi auto mode. For milsim and CQB games. EDIT: after looking at the hyperdouraku article, I can see that it does indeed have a safe-semi-auto selector switch. And that gearbox is MASSIVE. Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Well, that was unexpected. Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Actually if I were to buy one I'd do the opposite of increasing ROF. I would slow it down to the RS spec of 5 RPS. Also, it's pretty cool that the midcap mag holds 90 rounds and therefore 30 shots. The RS drum mag holds 32 rounds/shots. Pretty close (though the midcap isn't a drum). Exactly what I was thinking. An AA-12 shouldn't be some kind of ROF monster............it would just be downright wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
beta678 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Looks like the box mag has a 90rnd capacity so w/ the stock ROF it'd empty out in a few seconds which sorta balances out the ROF monster issue. Drum mag on the other hand... well... I guess there's a reason to actually get that super bulky mag lol. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Damn. It sounds pretty good. Almost no whine, just a thwack from the three pistons. Depending on the price this is seriously making me reconsider getting an AEG. https://youtu.be/O9DdG0jFNVg Link to post Share on other sites
heroshark Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Be funny if they were all springers just to on everyone's bonfire. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Quick! an excuse to not wanting/buying one! hummm... It is not a saiga12! Crysis aborted! =) Link to post Share on other sites
Leshy Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 ROF looks OK, are the left and right hops offset to increase spread? Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yep, apparently the lower two barrels' hop-ups are offset so adjusting the hop-ups gives you 'spread' rather than just elevation. Anyway, this has reminded me why I don't mind being a TM fanboy. Without any hint or warning, TM have dropped this on us - another totally new system that appears to be light-years ahead of the competition. I hope it proves to be less problematic than the M870, and I think the M4 MWS will make more of an impact, but c'mon - TM are leaving the rest of the market far, far behind. I for one am not holding out much hope for Silverback's effort now. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I will have one. That's all. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I will have one. That's all. Are you sure? Link to post Share on other sites
Pdubyuh Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Well this is a pleasant surprise I didn't expect that (have there been recent pics with a SEAL with one?!? lol) but its great to see TM coming up with something completely new. Link to post Share on other sites
faramon Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 The Man from Tokyo marui opened his eyes, with the slightest of movement he opened a hand it showed us a glimpse of the fair future, feeling rebuked and undone with no true desires the masses swayed and looked away. In this moment we were undone for the Man from Tokyo Marui had already prepared his other hand, with a great sigh felt throughout the lands he unveiled his AA-12 ... the crowds swelled to there most and fell to their knees in awe and silence at such magnificance. The Man from Tokyo Marui fed upon this his smile never dimming, nothing but enlightenment and a deep dark thirst showing in his eyes. ... But serously FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- ... we were all sideswiped and it was magnificant! Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Whaaaa? AA12? God damn TM. I was not expecting that. My first TM AEG methinks. Will do until a GBBR one comes along I suppose. Pics of the rest here. Hi-Cappa - meh, Beretta is an updated M9 GBB, M4 seems to be delayed. http://www.popularairsoft.com/tokyo-marui-unveils-aa-12-aes-54th-shizuoka-hobby-show Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 This is pretty cool. Very innovative but I think I will wait and see, things that are too good to be true usually are! Link to post Share on other sites
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