1st Commando Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I have seen Star do one and G&G. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> for now they are the only companies producing a skirmishable L85 AEG there are a great many threads on the subject on these forums ,may I suggest you use the search function to save de-railing this thread with posts that have been typed before Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 i love the susat, its one of the best bits of replica gear around. people who complain at the eye relief on it are probably the same people that complain about plastic bodied guns not looking realistic enough. everyone wants everything realistic but when a company produce something uber realistic that doesnt really work for airsoft people complain again. you cant have it both ways. if you like the love of the susat get one and learn to live with the poor eye relief, if you cant learn to live with it, stick to the irons. they still look good. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know I don't like it cause its 100 quid and its ######. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackwire Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I struggle with my Star Susat and end up taking it off mid game day usually. Each time I think... it'll be alright but no, it's just poor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 the Acog worked really well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maccrage Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 (edited) Just got the STAR A2 handguard in. Edited March 21, 2007 by maccrage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Waco Kid Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 (edited) I quite agree with Gadge & 1st commando's comments about scopes. Edited March 21, 2007 by The Waco Kid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kyrian_Zenda Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Maccrage, is the colour difference between the handguard and other furniture as noticeable in person as it is in the picture? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I think that is probably the light reflecting of the two differant materials Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Folk will disagree but i find a 4x scope excessive for uk airsoft you're not going to hit anything at the distance you can see. a 1x or 2x red dot with a bigger rear apeture although not 'accurate' would have been *much* more useful. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Must admit, I'm in 2 minds about the usefulness of magnifying scopes in airsoft. On an assault rifle, at normal distances, I tend to just point my gun in the general direction of the target, fire 1 BB and see where it goes then shoot another couple on the basis of where the first one goes. In this situation a zoom scope is no use to you cos you look through a scope, hold the crosshair on a target and have no clue where your BBs are actually being blown by the wind or hop-up or whatever. On the other hand, more and more I find that a zoom scope is handy for sussing out enemy positions from beyond the range of their guns. If you can spot a guy in cover from 100m away it's much easier to sneak toward him and either take him out or suppress him. It's getting to the stage where my ideal gun would have iron sights to aim through AND a SUSAT/ACOG to use for spotting. I agree completely about the Star SUSAT. I've ALWAYS said it was pretty poor and am constantly shocked at how rabidly some Star fanboys will defend it. As usual I will remind people that the optics are in a self-contained tube inside the Star SUSAT and you can loosen a grub screw inside it (after removing the baseplate) and slide the optics right back so they are flush with the rear of the rubber eye-cup. This gives you an extra half-inch of eye-relief and it makes a LOT of difference to the usability of the scope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I only ever use my scopes for spotting. Since I don't wear my glasses to play (only need them for driving etc), I find them invaluable for checking out suspicious bushes and the like. I never use them for aiming tho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maccrage Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Maccrage, is the colour difference between the handguard and other furniture as noticeable in person as it is in the picture? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not really. Like 1st said. Just the flash. And the handguard is new, and so has no wear to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThePatriot Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 I put a 4x scope on my CA Taktik, and it just magnified how inaccurate the gun was at long ranges so I took it off. Really haven't found a need for more than a basic red dot any any AEG, yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie182 Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Just got the STAR A2 handguard in. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hope it's easier to open up than the real one. Right royal pain in the *albartroth*. Although not many A2's have them on, so fortunatly you don't see many of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrier hawk Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I hope it's easier to open up than the real one. Right royal pain in the *albartroth*. Although not many A2's have them on, so fortunatly you don't see many of them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Here is my star a2 with the real a2 handguard but mine seems to open with no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maccrage Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 No problems opening. Just getting the bugger on. I don't think STAR checked to make sure it fit on their own damn gun. The tabs that go on either side of the receiver are too tight. You have to shave off a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pendra Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 My precious guns: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Well a pic of my G+G L85A1 with Stealthbomber mod embodied, RS rear sight and sling and my S'n'S Delisle combat carbine (it is at least british). I will leave the iron sights on mine since that is what I used in the army. I only used the SUSAT at shooting comps with the LSW. I would love a CWS but not enough to go to jail for it. Bad pics for the insurance company. Stunt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 I always thught the CC in Deslisle CC was for Commando Carbine? As thats who it was designed for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 (edited) William Delisle originally called it the combat carbine since he designed it with no specific end user in mind but when it was designed in late 1941 to early 1942. It wasn't tested by the commandos until May 1943. 17 were hand made and sent out with commandos on raids, at that point it became known as the commando carbine but it didn't go into production until August 1944. I called mine the combat carbine since I am not a commando and mine was made in the same way as his early prototypes i.e. chopping the front of and enfield off, sticking a 1911 mag on it and building a huge suppressor on it. With my old Nokia's Db meter I got a reading of 85 Db. Stunningly that is the same noise level as the real one. Stunt Edited March 30, 2007 by amateurstuntman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yeager Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Woa, very nice carbine you've got there! Is that the real deal, or is it a scratch built airsoft gun? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Scratch built AS. Based on an APS2 made by Warren from Shoot'n'Scoot. It has real steel stock, sling swivels and sights. It was the first one in the world I think and I don't think I have seen another one. It was built using dimensions from an armourer's guide to the delisle and the only off bit is the hole in the fore grip for the APS2 mag. Even though it is at skirmishable power it is so consistent I can hit the little tobasco bottle from an MRE at the end of my 35 meter garden 2 times out of 3. I love it like a child. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tom lawson Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 thats awesome!! it must be cool to have something as uniqure as that!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fnfr3ger Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 is there any news about the G&GL85A2 and the G&G SUSAT ?? or does anyone own one yet ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mOrfar Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 I'v got a A2, didn't come with a SUSAT so i put my other sights on it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrier hawk Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 I'v got a A2, didn't come with a SUSAT so i put my other sights on it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey mOrfar, The dovetail fitted to the L85 is only for the handle/rear sight or susat if u want to attach any other optics u need to have a L85 Dovetail to 20mm Regular Scope Mount Adaptor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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